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[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 150 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You know, I would 100% buy a phone from them if it runs Linux

[–] bobo1900@startrek.website 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With the amount of work they are putting in compatibility layers technology, I wouldn't be surprised if you could run The Witcher 3 on it out of the box.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

people are saying that the witcher 3 works really well with the winulator app (uses wine and box86, which i've heard usually performs a tiny bit better than FEX, what valve is using, at the cost of occasional innacuracies)

not disagreeing, but if you just want to run the witcher 3 on your phone you can do it right now

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Unless it runs Linux, what's the fucking point?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Steam Deck: Already runs Linux.

GabeCube: Confirmed it will run Linux.

Steam Frame: Confirmed it will run Linux.

Obviously Valve has made no overtures whatsoever towards making a phone. But if they did, what on Earth would lead you to believe that it wouldn't run Linux?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You know what, value releasing a Linux phone is actually plausible. Like, they could totally do it. Lots of people would like it, they could enter a new market with an idea they would be willing to play to that the establishment absolutely refuses to…

Dude, you joke but this is a plausible path the Linux phones going mainstream.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Openness. So far, Valve hardware offering is not trying to coerce you into a closed ecosystem, is not trying to forbid you from doing whatever the fuck you want with your device, and is not trying to force you to do things their way. They come with Steam, but you can basically do anything with them. Including removing Steam if you desire. And you can peek under the hood all you want.

The current mobile phone market is either walled garden jail from Apple, where you have to follow their value to the T, broken iphone where you have to jump through hoops to get something that may or may not survive the next update at the whim of our corporate overlords, or Android, which I like the most, where Google can pull a fast one on you installing an app by hand if they so desire (yes, I know they sort of walked back… for now).

Today, I see the phone I own as a necessary liability because of banking apps and such. I'd like a phone that would feel more like a device I own and can somewhat trust.

Is Valve the best player for that? No idea. But no current player is. At best we got some software offering built to support a very limited subset of hardware, and that software offering is still tied to the upstream (usually AOSP) playing nice.

[–] qualia@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Was gonna comment you misspelled SOAP 🧼, but just in case I did a quick joojle and it actually turns out it's "Android Open Source Project" (for any other newbs like me reading this).

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I think linux is the point. Because Valve has put SteamOS on their VR headset (which uses the same processor I have in my phone) it would be expected for them to do the same to a phone. Having a phone with an optimized emulator, a normal linux for arm desktop mode, and Steam built in would be very nice IMO, there are a lot of PC games that play fairly well with on-screen controls or even one of those controller phone cases that you can buy, and it's very hard to find good mobile games in comparison. I have the app Winulator on my phone, which sort of does that same thing, except not insanely reliably, and with meh UX, and it can't really run Steam (last I checked, I couldn't get it to work, it might be easier now idk), and you can't run linux x86 or ARM apps or windows ARM apps through it like I think people will be able to on the Steam frame.

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

Having a Linux phone that has chroot compartments for Android apps is the dream.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Steam Xperia Linux phone would be a dream. I think if a Steam phone did well then other companies like Asus would jump into Linux phone.

Then suddenly we get mainstream alternatives to Android.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Fuck it, just make them work like Flatpaks or snaps and run a minimal android session on top of virtual hardware and install like normal.

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[–] udon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Do you guys not have phones?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, but we despise the companies behind them. Valve is still in good graces after all this time.

[–] udon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hm, maybe the reference was not clear or maybe it was and we're stuck in layers of implied references:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly10r6m_-n8

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[–] pyrflie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have a dumb flip phone. I would love to have a smart phone that wants to sell me games rather than spy on me.

Edit: I could play the hell out of Dispatch on this bitch.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

G*mers will buy anything if it has their favourite monopoly logo on it.

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[–] the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Make it easily repairable like the Fairphone and then I'll be interested

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Gaming on a phone is an abomination. There are many fun time wasters but I want a phone that does less, not more. Internet, Camera, GPS, done.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Valve: “there are things phones are good at. There are things phones are bad at. And there theres the failed attempts to blur the lines. We here at valve have watched others spin their wheels stuck in the mud with their brilliant efforts to make terrible ideas work. We have a different idea….

What about a phone that just does phone things and when it needs heavier lifting, it doesn’t rape your battery or wallet to get it done? Instead, it seamlessly reaches out to your already powerful gaming rig at home? You install an app on our phone, and that tells your pc at home to install the same app automatically. Now when you tap that icon on the Home Screen, your phone taps into the massive power and connivence of an already working rig at home and streams it to your device!

We are compatible with backbone, Xbox and PlayStation, and of course steam machine controllers.

We here at valve don’t see the merit of spending tons of money marketing a compromise. Sell it once. Do it right. If we do the damn job right, you’ll come back for more. No abusive lock ins.

We call it the steam whistle. Small, portable, cheap, but everyone will notice it.”

Tell me Valve can’t market that.

[–] WALLACE@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The market for a setup like that would be pretty small. The average person just has a craptop that isn't switched on most of the time. Many don't even bother with that.

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[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is that a Cave Johnson voice I hear?

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

if steam made a phone it wouldn't be

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago (4 children)
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[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Jebus. Ya, I'll take Valve's bloatware compared to anyone else's ... so far.
Until they get in bed with Facebook.
And push some new AI girlfriend on me.

Goddamn I wish I could build a custom phone OS like Arch. I would actually take the time and do that.
When I get a new phone, it takes me a couple weeks to strip out all the crap without disabling the devices primary functions. Lotta breaking shit and rolling back. It takes for fukin ever.

I know open linux phones are on the horizon, at least to some degree.
And when its a legit option, I'll shell out for a customizable phone.
Until then, I'll stick to my lobotomized moto-g.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Goddamn I wish I could build a custom phone OS like Arch. I would actually take the time and do that.

You totally can. Android phones are basically a Linux kernel with a nice GUI. Just find the appropriate modules for your specific hardware, then assemble a suitable set of software to provide an user interface, and voila. We even already have good support for touch screen, phone calls, and a lot of other things available as separate pieces. I'm sure people will be happy to have this, myself included. Oh, and once you get all the pieces, remember to fix all the weird quirks, who would want a phone where the gyroscope stop working when you enable the camera, right?

What? That's too much work? Yeah. That's exactly why people are seeking for a large, resourceful entity to do that. Because it requires a truckload of time, effort, and knowledge. Today, "building" a linux distro is possible because of the vast amount of effort invested in it for decades.

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[–] techfox@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'll take Valve's bloatware compared to anyone else's

Damn right!

Until they get in bed with Facebook.

Absolute worst possible move!

And push some new AI girlfriend on me.

Woah woah woah, let's not be hasty now, let em cook, that could be good.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You people need to learn the differences between public and private companies

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[–] eta@feddit.org 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Isn't Steam Frame run in SteamOS(which is linux based) made for ARM chip?

While there likely won't be a steam phone, it technically exists as of now.

[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Not sure I follow... A steam frame isn't a phone. It can't make or receive phone calls

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 days ago

What the other comment said. Since Valve is already half way there with their Steam Frame version of SteamOS(which run on ARM architecture, where phone and tablet also use) and Linux phone iirc do exists, it's only a matter on how much futher Valve wanna go. So as of now they "technically" already have half a steam phone.

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[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I want a cyberdeck with cellular connectivity with talk/text.

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[–] Toes@ani.social 8 points 4 days ago

Would be crazy if it was also running steamos (arch)

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 15 points 5 days ago

Yes please.

[–] CobaltMetropolis@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Valve should release a phone if they get into the mobile gaming industry of course steam isn't based around that, but it would be nice if valve at least officially port their games to there...

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, but since the frame is arm based, a phone with clip on controller bits like the switch that could also play my steam games is absolutely something I would throw money at.

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