I don't use spotify but I wonder how many plays were because the next song algorithm "decided" that these songs will now be heard by everyone.
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Gonna stay on YouTube with my subscriptions (music) and on my CDs and Vinyls.
"Slop" feels like a weird description when it's something widely loved and appreciated. Like, either you mean it in the snobby "most people don't understand real art" sense, or what's not slop?
Compare to when it's used to describe, like, one of those SEO clickbait sites, which are full of hallucinated answers to whatever you were looking for. Nobody likes that, but it's hard to shut down.
Most people don't understand art, as most people also don't understand chess. It's important to accept that art is not something you can understand just because you like it or not, that's not the same thing; in the same way that's important to accept that a move made by a grandmaster chess player cannot be judged by someone who doesn't understand chess at a deep enough level. Science follows a similar conundrum, people don't understand even the most fundamental level of a certain field beyond their high-school knowledge and they still believe themselves capable of judging what science is.
We, as humans, and as a society, must learn to accept our own shortcomings and take pride in not having an opinion about something that we do not understand enough. It's fine to listen and like some tunes, but that does not give you the qualifications and knowledge to judge the quality of music and art. For that, you'd have to go deeper, and then you would also become a "snob".
So are you an art fan who thinks 4'33" is a work of genius? Or one of the ones who thinks it's garbage? I'm almost tempted to go for visual art where these controversies are more common; musicians are actually pretty chill about it most of the time. (And I'll avoid the derogatory term if we're discussing whether it's good, as opposed to just if someone in particular is doing it)
Scientists come to consensus, and update that consensus in sync as new discoveries are made. Art fans do not. There's also anthropology showing the existence of non-Western systems of music completely different from and alien to our own, divergences between systems within Western music history, and a long history of new kinds of music associated with minorities being deemed "wrong". Meanwhile, other people have known beauty is subjective continuously since Plato.
All that adds up to gatekeeping art being done for essentially the same reasons people gatekeep anything.
The future fucking sucks.
Yet is on our hands to change it!
Companies don't understand, we have to stop using their products.
Luis Rosman Till the end!
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You can't convince me that's not manufactured
Okay, then I won't try.
Americans love slop music, whether by AI or a committee of writers behind a sexy singer.
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“Synthetic music”, no you mean AI slop but want to keep inflating the bubble the Guardian
I like to not get music advice from charts. I don’t think I’ve heard AI music. I’m going to not look for it.
Spotify won't tell you that it is even if you do happen to stumble upon it.
Serious question: Let's say you hear a song on Spotify, and you like it, add it to your favorites, etc., then later find out it was AI. Do you stop enjoying it? If so, why?
I've unfollowed and purged real artists for less
I’d stop listening to it in simple protest. I want to hear music made by people. I have no interest in ai crap. If we keep allowing ai then the real artists will cease to exist. The young people won’t pursue a career in music. Why would they?
F ai
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I would. I have a difficult time separating art from the artist and couldn't currently bring myself to willingly listen to AI music. Mostly because it's a soulless conglomeration of what "good music is supposed to sound like" rather than art created by an actual human who has something to say. But to be fair, I feel the same about any pop or country hit that is churned out for the sole aim of getting a hit.
The horrific actions of Ian Dankins made me unable to listen to Lostprophets songs, so if I don't immediately spot the "underwater" quality of genAI songs...
Note that I submitted a San Francisco Chronicle article about this yesterday. One thing that came up during the discussion is that while there may be a lot of people streaming the song on Spotify, at least according to one source, the Billboard chart that was topped was a small-volume one, so it may not be as significant as it sounds.
Volume aside, I find Billboard charts equivalent to JD Power awards as they've always been rigged via payola schemes and the fact that nearly the entire nation's radio stations are owned by a single company iHeartRadio/Clear Channel. The music industry is picking winners and losers not the listening public.
This may be different with streaming but that platform makes it really easy to rig the system with bots.
Yes, masses like simple shit. Fast food, superhero movies and simple tunes with easy to understand lyrics.
If AI generated slop raises to the top of the charts, it tells a lot about the perceived quality of the human-made slop there.
Can someone make some AI music to counter the alt right AI music?
I'm sure you could, if you want.
They're either using one of those or a similar service.
I don't think that it's gonna be all that rewarding, though.
I mean, do you really want to be trying to get in a yelling match with someone else over politics, each trying to drown the other out?
I can offer a curl terminal log output in death metal, from my favourites, if it helps.
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I wonder how many of the listeners were bots.
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