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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

That right there is a wedge that can be opened. (Not be someone who comes across as being left-wing, who they'll likely reject out of hand, mind).

The seed of doubt has been sown, and now it remains to be asked just how kidnapping brown people (phrasing it that way won't work but I'm not currently trying to convince anyone...) benefits them, personally. It's an opportunity to examine the disconnect between things they feel are connected - "everything is shit and I don't have enough money" and "there's too many foreigners and brown people".

[–] y0kai@anarchist.nexus 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been trying something similar for years:

"They took our jerbs!" "You lost your job to an immgrant?" "Well, no, but..." "Who do you know that has lost their job to an immigrant?" "Well, personally no one, but that's not the point!" "..."

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I lost my job to overseas Indians and I don't blame them one lick. Blame the capitalists sending those jobs overseas.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s when you find out it’s not about belief, it’s about tribalism. It’s essentially a religion (or a cult).

Their friends are idiots. The people they look up to are idiots. It’s extremely difficult to separate someone from their “tribe” because that’s where they feel safest.

You can use logic and reality with them only until they run back to is their faith.

Americanism is a new religion. Good luck reasoning with it.

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[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Room temp IQs, both of them.

[–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In winter with the door open?

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What's "ISIS in White House" in reference to? I don't think there's even any Muslims in the Trump cabinet, are there? I'm sure he's made some sort of racist connection but it's so tenuous I can't even tell what it's supposed to be.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, this week an ex al qaeda member/leader visited trump in the white house. Lots of smiles and handshakes.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for that, though not for also obfuscating that it’s the President of Syria you’re talking about. It’s a very different story when you miss that part out, isn’t it?

None of this makes sense:

  • al Qaeda is in Afghanistan
  • ISIS is largely in Iraq and Syria
  • President of Syria joined "al Qaeda in Iraq", which is affiliated with al qaeda, but isn't the same org

Basically, the Syrian President worked with an al Qaeda affiliated group to take down Assad and fight against ISIS.

I'm guessing they don't know anything about ISIS or al Qaeda and probably think Iraq was somehow involved in 9/11.

[–] RotSteinFinke@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Might mean the US government warming up to the new leadership in Syria. The new president was seen as a terrorist until last year.

Sure, but he was directly opposing ISIS, so he cannot be part of ISIS. It makes no sense.

[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Linda: “I was told that I’d get to be openly racist and rich! What the hell!”

[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Exactly. They’ll give Maxwell a puppy in prison but mothers bleading out in ICE detention from miscarriages, then say racism doesn’t exist.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There was always going to be a point where "hurting other people" would finally take a backseat to "staying the fuck alive yourself". This appears to be this point. For some at least.

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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope both of these people die in a fire.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Um that's a wee bit much IMO, but how refreshing that we're allowed to speak so boldly here without getting banned, unlike cough reddit cough where everyone gets banned for breathing.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

In other words, tell me you're a racist without using the word racist. Just wow...

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least they got the border…

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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Cool, Trump lost me in the 2016 primaries. That was the first election I voted third party, and 2020 was the first election I voted Democrat, and I largely voted Republican before then (McCain and Romney) because I thought they cared about small, responsible and privacy-respecting government.

The warning signs were there from the start. He's a narcissist and easily manipulated by shiny things and flattery. That type of person isn't interested in making things better for you, only better for themselves, and someone in Trump's position cares more about making headlines than people actually liking them.

The only thing I like about Trump is be pissed off conservatives. Everything else is a net negative including the tax cuts that actually kind of benefit me.

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They're not tweeting their best

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Thank god we have ICE otherwise it would be a total embarrassment"

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

That is all that is needed for MAGA to vote.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dude is scoring below 50% on a basic reality check.

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