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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

sounds nice, I'll believe it when I see it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

yeah i mean, theres no way lol. even if the tech gets here that quickly there's 0% chance prices come down significantly on lower capacity drives. these'll be at least $500 and possibly far far more

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

So is that enough for the modern warfare installer or

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

20 TB at that price range could brankrupt some small cloud providers. Selfhosting would be much easier without having to worry about space. IF the price stays the same, but we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’d be interested what the wear-leveling and write-cycles look like. $250 for 20TB is half the current price of decent spinning rust, but if they’ll die in a year because they’re part of a Ceph cluster or ZFS array, that’s gonna be a no from me, dawg.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

$250 for 20TB is half the current price of decent spinning rust

No? Like, not at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

WD Red Pro 20TB = $420 MSRP, $380 cheapest I’ve found. Not considering taxes/shipping in that

So, you’re splitting hairs by saying that’s not half. Point stands

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It would be amazing if PCIe lanes becomes the predominant limiting factor, rather than drive cost, for building large storage arrays. What a world it would be, when even Epyc and its lanes-for-days proves to be insufficient for large ~~Chia miners~~ err ~~Plex servers~~ uh, Linux ISO mirrors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do I need a 20TB boot drive? No. Do I want it enough to pay $250? Yes, absolutely. I'm running 1TB now and I need to manage my space far more often than I'd like, despite the fact that I keep my multimedia on external mass storage. Also, sometimes the performance of that external HD really is a hindrance. I'd love to just have (almost) everything on my primary volume and never worry about it.

It's kind of weird how I have less internal storage today than I did 15 years ago. I mean, it's like 50 times faster, but still.

I'm not super-skeptical about the pricing. This stuff can't stay expensive forever, and 2027 is still a ways off.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I should put off building a NAS for the time being.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah…. I think I’ll still need to pick up some drives this year, but I might do less robust of a build out

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Generally the more layers you add to an SSD the less robust it is. If this is real your data will be corrupt within a week.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean you can say the same for spinning magnetic platters. "The more bits you're trying to squeeze into a fixed size HDD the less robust it is."

I'm not saying these guys can do it, but dismissing higher densities of storage out of hand seems a bit glib considering the last 60 years of progress and innovation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Should work perfectly with Flatpack apps then!