Alternative headline: Zelenskyy previously unaware of everything Modi has said and done.
How the hell did he manage to know ANYTHING about Modi and still be surprised enough to be disappointed??
this post was submitted on 10 Jul 2024
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Because hes not surprised. This is entirely expected
He's commenting on it to draw attention to it
I thought that was obvious
Huge disappointment? Does that mean he had high hopes for a nationalist? That's just silly.
Americans when they're doing Realpolitik with China: "Haha! Yay! What fun!"
Americans when they see India do Realpolitik with Russia: "Oh no! Aw man! This sucks!"
I don't understand this comment. What example are you using for America and China? What "Realpolitik" is happening between Modi and Putin hugging?
What example are you using for America and China?
A secret trip by Henry Kissinger grew into a half-century-long relationship with China
What “Realpolitik” is happening between Modi and Putin hugging?
India and Russia are forming a long term mutually beneficial economic relationship that parallels the relationship Nixon's America and Mao's China formed in the 1970s.
I don't know much about Kissinger but, from the AP article you sent gives me the idea China saw him as the "Giant Panda". I hardly see this relationship as a "yay" from Americans.
I thought Modi was significantly weakened with the last vote in India. Is this not him aligning with other authoritarian leaders? Thats the only politics I see.
I hardly see this relationship as a “yay” from Americans.
American business leadership broke the domestic union movement and monopolized retail sales with overseas outsourcing. It was a huge win for the folks Kissinger represented back home.
I thought Modi was significantly weakened with the last vote in India.
His BJP party no longer enjoys a singular majority in Parliament, but the NDA coalition holds a surplus of 21 seats needed for the 272 seat majority. Modi's policies aren't going to radically change, but he is forced to include more senior members of friendly parties in his overall cabinet.
Is this not him aligning with other authoritarian leaders?
India and Russia have been politically and economically aligned since the end of WW1. A big part of that was the USSR-backed anti-colonialist movement. But India has also relied on Russian surplus agricultural and energy exports for nearly a century.
Pakistan was the historical western ally in the region, dating back to the CIA-backed military coup in '58. But the War on Terror, which used Pakistan as a launch pad into Afghanistan, burned away significant amounts of Pakistani goodwill. The (highly illegal and hugely unpopular) US invasion into Abadabad, to assassinate Bin Laden, was more or less the last straw. Now Pakistan is increasingly aligning with China, and the US has been forced to court India's government as an alternative.
So this isn't Modi spontaneously aligning with Putin. This is India continuing a long-standing friendly relationship with Russia, while the NATO block nations try to coax/shame Modi away on the grounds that Putin is ontologically evil.
Sounds to me like:
Kissinger business interests in America align with China = Yay (USA corporatism)
India continuing politics as usual with Russia = Boo (USA regular people)
That's the nut of it.
Damn, Modi can redeem himself by just doing it again, but this time, stick a dagger in Putin's back!
India is showing a terrible double standard, they are hesitant towards the west, because India was once a British colony.
That is understandable.
But to support and "embrace" Russia when they are doing the same even worse to Ukraine is a disgusting double standard.
Shame on you India, for not changing with the times. Russia is obviously the evil empire today, even threatening nuclear war that could destroy life on earth.
Cry all you can. Won't change the fact Russia/USSR stood with US when whole world (including USA) supported Pakistan in 1971 war and have supported Pakistan against India multiple times, and now the USA just want to use us as a weapon against china. I absolutely hate what Putin is doing and modi, but we have to see our past and then decide our future relations, not to forget Russia has used veto power multiple times to support us.
we have to see our past and then decide our future relations, not to forget Russia has used veto power multiple times to support us.
I'm reminded of the comment by the Kenyan Ambassador to the UN, wrt their international relations: "Every time Britain sends a diplomat, we get a new lecture. Every time China sends a diplomat, we get a new hospital."
Westerners really do suck at diplomacy. This isn't an India-Russia problem nearly so much as it is NATO states thinking they're owed fealty without any reciprocity.
You may be right, but I am not aware of the west taking sides between India and Pakistan, but I know there were borders decided by UK, that were not agreeable to both sides. Which AFAIK is the reason for the conflict between India and Pakistan.
UK was probably involved, because it was them that fucked up IDK? But there's a huge difference between UK the colonial power 60 years ago, and Europe after EU, which has a mission for peace as a fundamental value and reason to be formed. As an example this was also the reason many EU countries did not join USA in the attack on Iraq.
Russia on the other hand, is now showing they may be even worse than the USSR. So zero progress under Communism, and 30 years of zero progress for Russia after Communism, while Europe has developed strong democratic values, that also aim to respect the rights and sovereignty of other countries outside the EU.
Again this has to be compared to Russia not only waging war, but threatening to use nukes, and risking all of humanity, if they don't get their evil ways, this is IMO worse than when India was a colony of UK. Although I acknowledge there were atrocities against India that should never have happened, and were definitely very serious war crimes against Indias civil population.
You forget that India wants to be an evil empire today.
I was not aware of that, in what sense?
Well Modi’s ruling a wannabe fascist genocidal party.
Hindu nationalists dream of expanding into neighbouring states because historical borders at some period or whatever.
Ruthless capitalists like Adani who fuck over countries around the world to extract their wealth.
Etc.
Do explain the Hindu' nationalists dream of expanding into neighbouring states because historical borders at some period or whatever' part. I am unaware
Modi is a little late to the War on ~~Islam~~ Terror, but he's perfectly in line with Europe and the US in his desire to wipe ~~Muslims~~ Fighting Age Radical Islamic Extremists off the face of the earth.
Also they seem unwilling to crack down on scammers and hackers preying on the west, so they should pair well with their Russian counterparts who do the same but are much more sophisticated.
they also refuse to crack down on their people immigrating to the west in droves via...surprise, surprise....scamming. They scam their way into countries by lying and falsifying documents. Saying their immigrating to go to school when in truth they're doing it for the easy PR status. Essentially travelling half way across the world to attend a community college and get a degree or certification in a minium wage field. And they can barely do that as most fail their community college classes. you essentially have "businesses" in india set up purely to scam people into a western country.
But they provide cheap and exploitable labor for companies in countries they immigrat to and they're too ignorant to realize they're being exploited. And then you have the Indians who immigrated legitimately and start their own businesses now being shaken down by organized Indian gangs who entered the country the same way the "students" did in order to scam "protection money" that gets sent right back to crime families in India.
If there's one country that needs to be sanctioned and it's people barred from entering a country it's India. at least until they get their own house in order. I guarantee you in a few years they'll be no better than russia.
A lot of irony going on. Like the Jewish state doing what was done to them throughout out history to others now.
More like fascists using propaganda to convince socialists that the Jews are the real bad guys.
Same shit different century.