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    [–] weegee90@lemmy.world 86 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Windows five minutes after installing a web browser: "Welcome to Edge! We've imported your tabs from Chrome for you."

    [–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I don't get it. What's this supposed to tell me?

    [–] tsugu 92 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    it's a parody of the memes where it's typing commands for 20 minutes to install a web browser

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I mean you can still get that experience on Ubuntu if you want to install Firefox as an apt package instead of being forced to install it as a snap package.

    "forced to do what now" - mint users

    [–] tsugu 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Both are official and work well so there isn't really a need for it. But some people just want to make their experience harder because snap bad.

    I understand that. I actually used the snap one for a long time but then was having issues with it crashing a lot and switched over. I doubt most have the same issues I was having.

    I was just pointing out that if you want to make it difficult for yourself, you can haha.

    [–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    No, the Firefox snap genuinely is awful. It takes forever to load and runs like ass.

    [–] tsugu 2 points 3 weeks ago

    idk what to tell you, I used it on an old Hp laptop from 2008 with an HDD. Ran just fine. Maybe try it again in 2025

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Too many screens and clicks. Where's my single-click browser install? Linux will never become mainstream on the desktop.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    no, it should just know what browser I want. it should read my minds or whatever. do you expect me to take those 5 whole clicks?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Agreed. I stand corrected. Fuck those clicks.

    [–] obscur_3@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

    I want just rawr

    [–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    That's mostly the browser, isn't it? I'm old and cant follow this but it looks like the install is one click and then its theme choosing and other first-startup stuff in the browser?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Might be. It's a deeply sarcastic comment. 😊

    [–] YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

    Windows users setting up a local account

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    [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Why would anyone install a proprietary freeware browser?

    [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    It's a very usable browser and vivaldi explicitly do no AI, unlike firefox. I get that firefox is the only serious cross platform competitor to chromium, but mozilla really does consistently shoot itself in the foot. it's like they're masochistic.

    edit: vivaldi also actually seems to have a vision and design goals, which firefox sort of lacks.

    [–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    How did moz shoot themselves in the foot? I am genuinely asking as I missed any controversy.

    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Firefox has been slowly ramping up AI integration and data collection/telemetry. Fortunately theres many forks that rip all that out. Librewolf and ironfox are good examples.

    The truth is Mozilla is not profitable as a company and FF would have died a long time ago if Google didn't pay up to keep them alive to help avoid monopoly busting suits. In a worse timeline we don't even have modern FF to fork from or ublock in 2025.

    [–] underscores@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

    because it's what the normals like

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
    sudo pacman -Syu librewolf-bin
    
    [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    error: target not found: librewolf-bin

    It's in the AUR.

    [–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    And this is why using a GUI is superior for most people.

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    [–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 8 points 3 weeks ago
    flatpak install flathub io.gitlab.librewolf-community
    
    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    paru -S floorp-bin

    [–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    brew install --cask waterfox
    
    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    winget install firefox

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    [–] db2@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] davidgro@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

    I do have comments, I guess I'll contact Tim Berners-Lee.

    [–] rirus@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

    You make it Seen complicated, which its not.

    [–] first_ad4972@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Use gnome-software and install flatpaks or official apt packages instead of the snap store

    [–] tsugu 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
    [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I don't like them, but I'd like to remind my fellow Canonical-Haters to not become User-Haters instead. It's okay to have preferences, but let's not antagonise each other.

    That said, flatpak > compiling from source > writing from scratch > writing with binary editor > not having it at all > snap

    [–] tsugu 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    That is pretty funny. However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I for example maintain the 4K Video Downloader Plus snap and the only other installation method is a .deb. In the stats I can see many other distros than just Ubuntu. I think it's the ideal packaging format for apps that should stay up to date at all time, even if the system isn't.

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    [–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I love your snap hate 🀣

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    [–] gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Genuine question; what is it about them that appeals to you? I used them for a while as a few things on kubuntu defaulted to snap but after a while I kept running into different issues that don't occur on the flathub/deb counterparts so I've cut them out for the most part.

    [–] tsugu 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I like Ubuntu and related technologies around it so when I wanted to learn Linux packaging I went for snap. It turned out to be not as hard as I thought, and from my experience they run just fine. And are capable of packaging more types of apps than flatpak.

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    [–] leviathan@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Linux users don't need to install a browser though. 😏

    [–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Technically, you're still downloading it, even if your package manager does it for you. And, tbh, even on Debian stable it needs some user action (including a visit to Mozilla's site) to get an actual version of Firefox and rolling upgrades installed instead of the LTS version.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

    My OS came with an officially packed (by Mozilla) non LTS version of Firefox that gets regular version upgrades.

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    LibreWolf is my response.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Image isn't loading for me. I get: Request error: error sending request for url (http://pictrs:8080/image/process.webp?src=0364be98-3ccc-4357-9b10-21eeb3f15e30.webp): operation timed out

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