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    [–] weegee90@lemmy.world 87 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Windows five minutes after installing a web browser: "Welcome to Edge! We've imported your tabs from Chrome for you."

    [–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I don't get it. What's this supposed to tell me?

    [–] tsugu 94 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    it's a parody of the memes where it's typing commands for 20 minutes to install a web browser

    [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I mean you can still get that experience on Ubuntu if you want to install Firefox as an apt package instead of being forced to install it as a snap package.

    "forced to do what now" - mint users

    [–] tsugu 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Both are official and work well so there isn't really a need for it. But some people just want to make their experience harder because snap bad.

    I understand that. I actually used the snap one for a long time but then was having issues with it crashing a lot and switched over. I doubt most have the same issues I was having.

    I was just pointing out that if you want to make it difficult for yourself, you can haha.

    [–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    No, the Firefox snap genuinely is awful. It takes forever to load and runs like ass.

    [–] tsugu 2 points 2 months ago

    idk what to tell you, I used it on an old Hp laptop from 2008 with an HDD. Ran just fine. Maybe try it again in 2025

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Too many screens and clicks. Where's my single-click browser install? Linux will never become mainstream on the desktop.

    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    no, it should just know what browser I want. it should read my minds or whatever. do you expect me to take those 5 whole clicks?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Agreed. I stand corrected. Fuck those clicks.

    [–] obscur_3@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

    I want just rawr

    [–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That's mostly the browser, isn't it? I'm old and cant follow this but it looks like the install is one click and then its theme choosing and other first-startup stuff in the browser?

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

    Might be. It's a deeply sarcastic comment. 😊

    [–] YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

    Windows users setting up a local account

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    [–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Why would anyone install a proprietary freeware browser?

    [–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    It's a very usable browser and vivaldi explicitly do no AI, unlike firefox. I get that firefox is the only serious cross platform competitor to chromium, but mozilla really does consistently shoot itself in the foot. it's like they're masochistic.

    edit: vivaldi also actually seems to have a vision and design goals, which firefox sort of lacks.

    [–] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    How did moz shoot themselves in the foot? I am genuinely asking as I missed any controversy.

    [–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

    Firefox has been slowly ramping up AI integration and data collection/telemetry. Fortunately theres many forks that rip all that out. Librewolf and ironfox are good examples.

    The truth is Mozilla is not profitable as a company and FF would have died a long time ago if Google didn't pay up to keep them alive to help avoid monopoly busting suits. In a worse timeline we don't even have modern FF to fork from or ublock in 2025.

    [–] underscores@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

    because it's what the normals like

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)
    sudo pacman -Syu librewolf-bin
    
    [–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    error: target not found: librewolf-bin

    It's in the AUR.

    [–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    And this is why using a GUI is superior for most people.

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    [–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 8 points 2 months ago
    flatpak install flathub io.gitlab.librewolf-community
    
    [–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    paru -S floorp-bin

    [–] thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    brew install --cask waterfox
    
    [–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    winget install firefox

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    [–] db2@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] davidgro@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

    I do have comments, I guess I'll contact Tim Berners-Lee.

    [–] rirus@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

    You make it Seen complicated, which its not.

    [–] first_ad4972@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Use gnome-software and install flatpaks or official apt packages instead of the snap store

    [–] tsugu 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
    [–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't like them, but I'd like to remind my fellow Canonical-Haters to not become User-Haters instead. It's okay to have preferences, but let's not antagonise each other.

    That said, flatpak > compiling from source > writing from scratch > writing with binary editor > not having it at all > snap

    [–] tsugu 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That is pretty funny. However the "not having it at all" mfs suddenly reconsider when it's the only way to install an app. I for example maintain the 4K Video Downloader Plus snap and the only other installation method is a .deb. In the stats I can see many other distros than just Ubuntu. I think it's the ideal packaging format for apps that should stay up to date at all time, even if the system isn't.

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    [–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but I love your snap hate 🀣

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    [–] gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Genuine question; what is it about them that appeals to you? I used them for a while as a few things on kubuntu defaulted to snap but after a while I kept running into different issues that don't occur on the flathub/deb counterparts so I've cut them out for the most part.

    [–] tsugu 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I like Ubuntu and related technologies around it so when I wanted to learn Linux packaging I went for snap. It turned out to be not as hard as I thought, and from my experience they run just fine. And are capable of packaging more types of apps than flatpak.

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    [–] leviathan@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

    Linux users don't need to install a browser though. 😏

    [–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Technically, you're still downloading it, even if your package manager does it for you. And, tbh, even on Debian stable it needs some user action (including a visit to Mozilla's site) to get an actual version of Firefox and rolling upgrades installed instead of the LTS version.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

    My OS came with an officially packed (by Mozilla) non LTS version of Firefox that gets regular version upgrades.

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    LibreWolf is my response.

    [–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Image isn't loading for me. I get: Request error: error sending request for url (http://pictrs:8080/image/process.webp?src=0364be98-3ccc-4357-9b10-21eeb3f15e30.webp): operation timed out

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