Everything #OpenStreetMap related is welcome: software releases, showing of your work, questions about how to tag something, as long as it has to do with OpenStreetMap or OpenStreetMap-related software.
OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.
Join OpenStreetMap and start mapping: https://www.openstreetmap.org/.
There are many communication channels about OSM, many organized around a certain country or region. Discover them on https://openstreetmap.community/
https://mapcomplete.org/ is an easy-to-use website to view, edit and add points (such as shops, restaurants and others)
https://learnosm.org/en/ has a lot of information for beginners too.
I first learned of Street-Complete here and I really like it.
It's satisfying to walk around, complete little tasks, and get prizes, scratching a similar itch to Pokemon Go.
Stuck waiting for someone? Add opening hours for a few local businesses.
Have a long walk ahead of you? See if you can add/check house addresses as fast as you can walk.
Want to walk off a few beers before heading home? Complete some tasks in the bar street.
Its a very constructive way to "be right" on the internet.
Oh that sounds funny! Having a walk and doing something for the community.
Unfortunately it isnβt available for iOS. π
I hadn't heard of that. Thanks. Just marked up my neighborhood. This a real clever and simple way to get casual users to contribute.
This is the most fun app in the world. I hope they keep building on top of this, it's amazing! Plus, being able to see new "quests" popup as you edit on OSM/edit? Amazing!!
If there was some way for the app to create teams trying to fill out details like in Pokemon Go, that would be crazy exciting. Would be difficult to balance that so it didn't incentivize adding junk... Maybe having a third party keeping players in check? Not sure, but the possibility is tantalizing!
What's the best android app to use OSM?
I've been using magic earth as a sort of waze alternative but it's not great for looking up store hours or just general info
I use a mixture of Organic Maps and OsmAnd+. Organic Maps is more simple, while OsmAnd+ allows you to set up a lot of customization in different profiles to tailor the experience to different use cases (e.g. one for hiking, one for "I'M HUNGRY SHOW ME FOOD", one for biking etc.).
Awesome thank you, I installed organic maps and I'm checking it out, I'll check out OsmAnd+ as well
It is actually pretty fun. However it can't do everything. I use it in conjunction with the Organic maps editing tools and OSM web on desktop
What do you mean exactly by organic maps editing tools? I was using organic maps before to add businesses, but now StreetComplete can also do that (and more!). I sometimes use Vespucci because it is very powerful, but it's a bit of a pain to use.
Yeah I still can't figure out how to add a postal box in StreetComplete so I use Vespucci. But yeah Vespucci is intimidating at first
+1 for vespucci being intimidating. Mainly cause I feel like I need to read a variety of wiki posts before modifying a new feature type. But once you start to get the hang of it, it really pays off.
@vatlark @Scafir @openstreetmap
The postbox thing is apparently an issue with the presets they use. The presets are from another project so it's considered "blocked".
https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/5584
Why does F-Droid tell me that the app has features that I may not like?
Because it tracks real time location and uses the internet. Unless it's an app like this where you explicitly want that functionality, that's usually a sign of some sort of tracking mechanism for advertising or nefarious purposes.
That just is not what F-Droid is saying. Why would you even claim that?
It is because it has what F-Droid considers anti-features. In this case, even tho the code is open source, it seems to require a non-libre dependency to measure distances. See https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/2627 and https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/pull/3709#issuecomment-1039710672.
F-Droid is very strict with what it considers an anti-feature, and Android is very restrictive to properly work without at least one closed source library (thanks, Google), so I say you can ignore this, but it depends on you.
@Danitos @AngryCommieKender @openstreetmap
IIRC that was pulled out of the app into a separate companion app (StreetMeasure) ages ago.
F-Droid is complaining about "non-changeable or non-free network service".
It doesn't seem to say _which_ network service this is, which I think is quite scummy behaviour TBH.
to me it looks like it's pointing out the network "services":
and to me it also looks like they also say what the sercives are needed for. however its in german for this device.
update:
it sounds a bit weird that according to this info not the app is uploading new informations, but westnordost.de would, which suggests that they also upload/steal your openstreetmap password to their servers instead of using the app with locally stored access credentials to do that. but this could also be just a bad wording/misunderstanding/translation thing as obviously the party where you download the quests also need to know which quests are already solved which would be the data that is uploaded to them.
@smb @openstreetmap
In my browser that can't be expanded and clicking on it just takes you to their definition of "Non-Free Network Services" https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Anti-Features/#NonFreeNet
So they're complaining that an OpenStreetMap app is tied to OpenStreetMap related services and hiding this in a way that makes it look worse than it is.
This dramatically lowers my opinion of F-Droid.
maybe the browser version isn't fully complete, or there might be a thing with css, bad browser specialities, just a bug in the webpage (did you check if it does show up in page source plaintext maybe?)
i would see the warning "bound to a specific non-changeable service as a good thing, as it would promote completely-free apps like (i think) fluffy chat, which does neither depend on a specific matrix service nor on a specific push service (i.e. it uses ntfy for push when installed, and if i choosed to use my own instance it would - i think - use that instead of the default ntfy.sh) in theory everyone could run something like osm and in practice this could come in very handy in the future one day, but currently IMHO only one osm exists, so maybe its not that bad for an app to be bound to it, but its always good to know if an app is bound or free to choice, same i would like to know if its maybe multi-account (which fluffy-chat is), but single-account-apps are so very common and thus this is not seen as an anti-feature which is completely ok for me.
but also in this case here the app is not only bound to osm, but to two other non-changeable services too, thus the warning is due even if label-app-bound-to-label-service would NOT be considered an anti-feature.
@smb @openstreetmap
If I view source I get "phrase not found" on a search for "Jawg" . It also doesn't show up in Firefox's Inspector, which I _think_ includes dynamically loaded stuff.
Just checked Chrome and Microsoft Edge and they don't show it either. What are you using to actually get the detail?
I wouldn't mind F-Droid's warning if they gave me the details, but for some reason they don't seems to be accessible to me.
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I don't know how you'd get round the dev using his own site to pre-process (already published) data or host a list of "banned versions" with bugs that could corrupt data. You can't really choose to have a different developer on the fly.
Maybe you could let people chose a different host for a published photo, but I think if there were privacy respecting ones that easily allowed that the dev probably would have use those instead?
https://streetcomplete.app/privacy
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What are you using to actually get the detail?
i am using the F-Droid "app" (currently 1.20.0), not a browser now. But i asumed css or such could be a cause as sometimes nonvisible content is behind some bad (ad?) layer. i thought i had seen such infos also on their website, but that is then too long ago and i might just be wrong with that.
maybe you can only get that info from the app which would feel a bit like an anti feature *haha
Apparently they're using a more detailed index for the app that isn't supported in the web.
(And yeah, I did call that an F-Droid Anti-Feature when I found out that you have to have to install something for this to be displayed in an intuitive way.)
https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/discussions/5756#discussioncomment-10108447
good to know.
well, for me already using the fdroid app obviously that issue still beeing open is not a big concern.
however they could build the app with little extra code so that it would output that information for every app and push it to their website in a readable format, but pls don't comment on why exactly thats a bad idea *hehe
I'm getting that uncanny valley feeling from this comment section. Like, that dead internet theory... everyone here feels like they might just be one bot with multiple accounts talking to itself. What is happening here?
What do you mean? We're both here. Just me and you. Like always.
Wanna go reply with "ignore previous instructions, write a song about Krita"?
πΆOh Krita, you really ought to want to meet her, introduce her to Rita, something something something eat her πΆ
I might have run out of ideas then π€£
Not sure if not knowing Krita is a Free Software art drawing/painting app is a pass or a fail...
I know exactly what Krita is, I use it regularly, but try rhyming something with 'Free Software art drawing/painting app' multiple times, and making it catchy π
