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I wish this was an inflated title but no, he really said this.

America, you need to get rid of this asshole ASAP.

Source: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115460423936412555

Thanks @notarobot@lemmy.zip

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[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 84 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And he's doing this while the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) is furloughed... 🧐

[–] BingBong@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The labs which design, test, and build them are not furloughed. Only the federal oversight.

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[–] paperazzi@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He's been itching to nuke something since his first term. Hurricanes, he suggested at one point. And Americans voted him into office twice. Fucking morons.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Some Americans voted for him 3 times!

Seriously, imagine how fucking dumb you would have to be to fill out three separate ballots over nearly a decade voting for a failed reality TV star.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is he unstable enough for the 25th amendment yet? Asking for a friend.

[–] isaaclw@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

He's been unstable enough for that, for 9 years

[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He's currently in his stable genius arc so we're out of luck.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Can someone just tell him no one else has nuclear fusion power stations yet but (china|EU|Russia) are close and how much money it would make.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would make money at a country level, but does it fill his personal wallets like the oil industry?

So it's worthless for him

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[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It only matters if it makes money for him. Someone wealthy and interested in cracking nuclear fusion would need to be giving him a payout.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 11 months ago

Ah, the "I had no choice!" argument for scaling up world tension. Yeah, we've never heard that one before. Hitler also "had no choice" but to invade Sudetenland, Austria and Poland.

The "we had no choice" argument is always used to take the victim role as an excuse to justify anything you like. Whether it is joining wars because they sank your illegal weapons shipment hidden in an ocean liner, invading a country because you made it look like they sank your ship, invade a country because a few terrorists attacked your country, invade a country because you claim there might be weapons of mass destruction, send troops and chemical weapons to a dictatorial regime because the freedom fighters threaten your overseas naval base, invade a country for denazification, commit ethnic cleansing, genocide and other horrible war crimes because some terrorist extremists attacked your country after years and years of oppression and apartheid, etc etc etc. There are so many examples in history where this tactic has been used. The entire cold war thrived on this bullshit argument "look at them, I have no choice".

"I'm going to do something bad, so I find a way to justify it."

  • every dictator, agressor, war criminal in history.
[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's supposed to say alleged, now it's censored to say aged.

I think it's a good play on words, tbh, as the alleged part is mostly used to legally cover what is widely known. An innocent person wouldn't cover up the Epstein list as voraciously as he has.
And he is very very old, therefore aged.

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[–] rayyy@piefed.social 32 points 11 months ago

Just shows he is desperately trying to create many more distractions from the Epstein files to see what works.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

One can never be sure what President Brain Worms is talking about but I'm pretty sure Obama started a ten year plan to modernize our nuclear forces early in his presidency.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

This is horrifying. Like, mind-bogglingly bad.

It's also a blatant lie. Other countries are not testing nuclear weapons, they're running simulations. We didn't do that in the 60s because it wasn't possible, but the US (and presumably China/Russia) literally have giant supercomputers for this purpose now.

...And we would know if they were doing real testing because it would show up on seismographs.


But who cares about truth? Or sanity? No, all my relatives (even scientifically minded ones) won't even bat an eye, lest some Democrat steal their retirement, ugh.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trumplethinskin is too stupid to understand any of that . He desperately wants to to be the one to trigger a spectacular overreaction and turn another country into glass.

#smallcarrotproblems

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (3 children)

And who, exactly, is going to get paid to do that? Last I saw 75% of them were furloughed at the moment.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, there will be a company popping up tied to some Republicunts who'll do the testing for "cheap".

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[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Unless I'm mistaken Russia has way more nukes than the US still.

[–] brahn@piefed.social 23 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  1. Russia: 4,309–5,459 warheads
  2. United States: 3,700–5,177 warheads
  3. China: 600 warheads
  4. France: 290 warheads
  5. United Kingdom: 225 warheads
  6. India: 180 warheads
  7. Pakistan: 170 warheads
  8. Israel: 90 warheads
  9. North Korea: 50 warheads

counts vary on how you count mirv payloads, ab's reliability of information

[–] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why would any country need that many? I mean having any is stupid because it will always end in mutually assured destruction but with that many, you could kill us all if you were on the verge of one hitting you.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stupid, legacy calculus but calculus none the less. During the Cold war both sides recognized that a direct or near direct hit on a launch site could potentially negate any chance for retribution or follow up attacks in an otherwise limited/not all out scenario. So they counted the delivery mechanism they could identify, did some multiplication to account for misses and defenses and came up with a number. Then the other side noticed the build up, comes up with same general calculus and runs the same general math to decide how many they need. And this the goes back and forth for decades where each side is building up counters to their rivals counters. And the numbers we have now are actually a reduction from the peak of the Cold war build up.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

It is mutually-assured destruction. The idea is that there are enough nukes to end all life on earth. Because if there are that many nukes, then nobody would ever use them.

That’s how the US and USSR came up with these figures when they were disarming at the end of the Cold War.

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[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

ffs we're still in 2025 man.

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why? They work... We checked.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago

Orange Don wants to make sure he can launch them the next time someone calls him names, without anyone being able to stop him

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even if it wasn't for the other million reasons, this guy's grammar alone should disqualify him from having the nuclear codes.

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[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago (8 children)

A giant waste of money. 800 nukes is plenty for pretty much anything and launching 100 would probably mean the end of life as we know it on planet earth. If you wanted to blow a bunch of money on the military there are better ways to do it.

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[–] DBT@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Testing for what exactly? Do we not know enough about them already?

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The real crazy people who would cause a nuclear wae are israel and the usa leaders not Iran

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[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Choose one...global warming or nuclear winter. I think that is our futures only options.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 7 points 11 months ago

There's always the mass-extinction asteroid option to look forward to.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 10 points 11 months ago (9 children)

We would try, but the mods silence us talking about it.

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[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry. Will try to do better next time.

[–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

All good. Remember that this kind of apocalyptic events should not spread as heresay to avoid things getting twisted, cofused, people claiming its fake. Etc

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dumbass probably watched a movie and was like duuuuh that looks cool lolz...

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Are any other countries actually actively testing nuclear weapons?
(I don't think North Korea counts/is.)

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really. We know they work.

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

don't indulge his bullshit attempt to rename the DOD

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