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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 137 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

'Not optimistic he will create anything very useful right now'

Or ever create anything (he's just stealing other people's creations, at best)

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 60 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Truly the Thomas Edison of the 21st century.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll say aw Topsy at my autopsy!

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He is not just strealing other people's creations. He is also giving them incredibly lame names.

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[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 8 points 3 weeks ago

Stealing and enshittifying

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 113 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Remember that Elon overpromises & underdelivers

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally. With everything. In every business he touches. Yet the stock goes up. It's stupid.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm it seems the speculative market loves speculation rather than actual results...

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Not really.

Remember that Elmo just lies his ass off almost all the time.

Over promises and under delivery are such extreme understatements with him, almost everything bhe says is just pure imaginary bullshit

Lying his ass off literally is the only thing he does well, it made Tesla stocks balloon to being overvalued somewhere in 10-100 times their actual value

Remember hyperloop, that project that even high schoolers could identify as absolutely dumb? Billions and billions in investment money has been wasted on absolute bullshit that will never work.

But what about SpaceX, I hear you type?

Remember how we'd land on Mars in 2018, now 7-8 years ago? Yeah, Elmo is currently at about 1% of that particular promise. Again, it's not under delivery, it's just actual plain bullshit

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 89 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Musk is just Nazi-washing what he stole from Wikipedia, he doesn't have the base of volunteers and employees to maintain his latest toy. A year from now, it will be gone and forgotten, and we'll all be shouting at each other to go vote.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Guess Conservapedia wasn't conservative enough.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, they already have Metapedia for that.

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago

Yet another horrible thing that apparently exists. Boooo.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 76 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Jimmy Wales: Libertarian that ended up creating perhaps the most successful collectivist project of all time.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

this is a perfect example of why we should always allow an escape space for everyone. Sometimes that person in the space you are polar opposed too will create something that defies even their own rules

[–] snowboardbumvt@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

In what way does Wikipedia defy Jimmy Wales own rules?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I consider myself libertarian and absolutely love Wikipedia! In fact, if I didn't have to work, I'd work on FOSS full time.

Libertarians have no issues with collectivism, they only have issues with forced collectivism. Libertarians love private unions, co-ops, non-profits, etc.

[–] snowboardbumvt@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's how most libertarians I've talked to think. There are some people who call themselves libertarians who actually just want the government out of the way so mega corps can control everything, but i don't think Jimmy Wales is one of them.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's an element of vibe contrarianism in any pronounced political ideology. Meaning that libertarians often hate what they perceive as anti-libertarian, communists often hate what they perceive as anti-communist, and so on.

In that regard yes, there are plenty of libertarians who just want to kill anything with leftist vibes with fire.

But the world of ideas is far richer than the existing conventions and established ideologies, and every person has their own trajectory in that.

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy itself is a good example of this. Most of the userbase heavily disagrees with the main developers' political opinions, yet the software works well for everyone.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Reading his Wiki page, he does sound rather reasonable. Support for Occupy Wallstreet, running as a UK Labour candidate, openly calling not to elect Trump and also calling the US Libertarian Party "lunatics".

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[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 3 weeks ago

He also gave the example of a German Wiki community member who wrote a program to verify the ISBN numbers of books cited, and was able to trace notable mistakes to one person. That person ultimately confessed they had used ChatGPT to find citations for text references and the LLM “just very happily makes up books for you,” Wales said.

Well this won't be a problem with Grokipedia, because it only uses sources that are available online as pure text (I'm pretty sure not even PDFs are used by it).

Wales thinks the public and the media often give Wikipedia too much credit. In its early days, he says, the site was never as bad as the jokes made about it. But now, he says, “We are not as good as they think we are. Of course, we are a lot better than we used to be, but there is still so much work to do.”

Amen, it's nice to see the level-headedness.

[–] koshka@koshka.ynh.fr 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's going to become an AI written clone of Wikipedia with all the personal opinions of Elon mixed in. I don't see it going anywhere.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you check it out, its not going to become that because it IS that. Its all AI rewritten articles from Wikipedia with Elon's alt right biases applied. Some of the less political pages aren't even really rewrites but just copy/pastes

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It will be a another propaganda mouthpiece, and have all the credibility of Fox News.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Or conservapedia, the fox news of wikipedias.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago

doesn’t mean it can’t do damage - like fox news

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It'll effect things as much Conservapedia does. A laughing stock to gawk at and nothing more.

I bet by the end of next year it's dead.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

One key difference: Conservapedia was young earth creationist, Grok is not. That amount of difference unfortunately enough to convince a lot of average Joes of credibility.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not about making something useful. He and a few others are cloning everything any of their cult might use to further fence them in from external information and entertainment.

They’re having a harder time in entertainment, because artists tend to be more liberal, but they’re gaining ground there, too. After a certain point, they’ll just radically censor everything else.

[–] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is what scares me. The fact that they are doing it at all. It's providing more spaces for people to shut themselves in completely with the information they want. These fucking desperate bigots will never be satisfied until the entire world reflects their bigoted ass beliefs, but since that will never happen they will fight a civil war for Elon out of sheer ignorant self obsession, instead

[–] tino@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Anybody going there to test "how bad it is" is giving them traffic, which they can use to brag about its success. Personally, I'd rather completely ignore it and disregard whoever mention it one day as a source, which will never happen hopefuly.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So set the VPN to Iran so it looks like it's only popular with 'ayrab terrorists' to take always his talking point?

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

All he has to do is force it in front of people's eyes instead of Wikipedia. It doesn't actually have to be useful, just in the way.

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[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They needed a safe space for their ideas. Less scary stuff like pronouns that make their brains hurt

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[–] ReHomed@lemmy.cafe 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon Musk NEVER creates anything very useful as of now

[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago

Elon Musk NEVER creates.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ultimately, this could highlight the incredibly high value of wikipedia as a common ressource, and might lead to better things there.

Maybe.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago

Awww... I wish I had that level of optimism.

[–] PlanterTree@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What does Grokipedia say on the genocide in South Africa?

[–] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

well, the website only has one button, that redirects to the actions of Grokipedia with the options to buy or sell some.

I guess you have to interact with their actions to use the thing?

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The first thing I noticed about grokipedia is that it doesn't do a good job at qualifying the strength of sources.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago

That was an intentional design choice no?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

References

  1. ^ Trust me, bro
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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago

I mean basically it's "Conservapedia but it takes itself seriously".

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's been fun watching Elon go from space Jesus to shorthand for any billionaire vanity project that will amount to nothing.

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[–] magguzu@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

How long until AI models start training off Grokipedia, and we have the biggest game of hallucination telephone?

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

A collection of hallucinations sounds more like a bad piece of comedy

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

They are going to clone Wikipedia, then use some flimsy excuse to get it shut down under something like "anti conservative bias". He'll position Nazipedia to replace it.

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