Thanks for the update and for your work, Dev! Also, can you enlighten us about the context text window? Should we expect any developments, or is it a long shot?
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Thanks for making a wonderful facility for us. FYI, T2I is really awesome on Perchance. Keep up the great work!
I pray that this is only temporary, because for weeks now the image quality has been extremely poor, making the results unusable. Despite careful prompts and using the “Professional Photo” mode, human bodies are only rendered as 1950s pin-ups with uniform brown-beige plastic skin, and the faces all look the same, like sticker doll masks. Damn, it used to be so good and it was so interesting to create individual, distinctive human characters! I really hope that at least the previous quality will be restored! Thank you for your work!
Thank you so much for the update and for all your hard work! I'm grateful to know that you are reading user feedback.
By and large, I've been really happy with the new text gen. When it works well, it works really, really well. There have been a few times that it was working amazingly and I was really impressed by the quality -- times where it took a really complex scenario and performed beautifully, picked up on foreshadowing, did a great job at portraying nuanced characters and writing realistic in-character dialogue, etc. with minimal corrections needed.
I also already find it a huge improvement from the old model in almost every single way, outside of times the model starts severely and repeatedly hallucinating. More than anything else, I'm so, so glad that it isn't afraid of dark themes like the old model was. I love that if I give a character a dark backstory, it will sometimes add to and embellish it, and will also bring those details up when relevant of its own accord (without me having to repeatedly instruct and nag it to do so). So I've been really happy with the update!
Yeah, this has definitely been my experience, too. As a story generator it works really well for me.
Do take your time with it, but i personally preferred the old ai somehow..? It just seemed..much better at following instructions fully without trying to hallucinate things? But the more intelligent part is definitely better, still would've been cool if there was an option to use the old ai (〒﹏〒)
Okay this is starting to be miserable, when my bots that worked perfectly months ago now can't write more than 2 sentences or follow instructions it's..not worth the smarter ai imo, especially if even if the old ai was "more dumb" it could actually write a lot more and also follow instructions (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ) (not really saying it's bad or anything just needed to vent\rant)
Thanks dev! There are actually two questions many of us have,
- The already mentioned context window (this was the one thing we hoped most for) and
- Which model did you choose (so we can look for workarounds easier)?
Thanks for all your hard work! I really noticed the text gen getting better little by little. Besides the hyperfixations and repetitions you mentioned there is also the on-off problem of following the prompt and writing instructions, other than this I've noticed only minor quirks (ignorable for me as the other problems are more important).
Hello, with all due respect, AI Story Generator is totally terrible right now.
Right now the model is straight up nonsense, ingoring the whole plotline, outputting texts that has just no correlation to the previous ones, jumping scenes without being told to, or refusing to change a scene and follow the new one, etc. It ignores already existing context and details, also makes characters know things they very clearly should not. A few months ago it worked relatively fine, even with the new AI being sometwhat bad at storytelling, now it's plainly dumb, ignoring the user, and even totally senseless.
We know, I hope this text model is fixed, I cannot stand the new model, this was a bad idea from the beginning
Lo, the Savior hath spoken... Thank you savior. Can't for the improved text to image gen.
Hi Dev!! Personally I think the new text model is a HUGE improvement over the old one. The story maker has gotten worlds better! If you think it can be improved that's AWESOME! I look forward to that. Don't beat yourself up or take anyone's negativity too seriously, you're making a really cool resource for free and that's really cool.
What is multiplayer plugin and database plugin actually?
This is just a guess but multiplayer would allow multiple users in the AI Character chat or other generators, the database plug in would allow the generator database to be stored elsewhere, rather than your browser local storage.
Nice
Multiple players - realtime database, like a game server, can counts score, render map, etc
Database - just like gallery
They are just like comment plugin or gallery plugin but more versatile, you can use them to vote, play game, create forum, IDK all the above is my guess.
i choose elf sorcerer. you choose orc ninja. we enter room and there r 10 badguys. i shoot lazerbeam. what do you do?
hence multiplayer. It is the thing currently lacking with ai games. personally, i tried making games and asked ai to build some cool stuff from management games to rpgs, strategy, and racing games. but eventually i stopped because there's only so much fun they can be since they all were singleplayer. They become just simulations one person can do until bored.
Multiplayer allows competition, socialness, and infinite playability. I think it will be difficult to incorporate multiplayer plugins in a nonhackable way, since sufficiently knowledgeable ppl can often just open up teh console and run custom scripts. Thats the problem i had when i tried to make a leaderboard plugin functional on perchance. But, if Perchance has a good solution, Multiplayer functionality essentially 'opens up' the next era of Perchance Games; especially if the ai understands how to incorporate the multiplayer plugin as it currently does with ai image plugin. Tbh tho im not sure unhackability is possible since the solution i know of is to have 'the brains' of the game be on a server that players can query and interact with but cant directly manipulate. So we may or may not have to settle for hackable games. i do not know.
I have not checked teh ai coder ai recently, but if Perchance makes a legit multiplayer plugin, ai code assist understands it, and ai code assist is top tier updated, imo Perchance will be one of the coolest creative spaces on teh internet for people, including those with no code experience at all, to make browser games.
Even just a game where each player can have a car, choose a crew, and then the page simulates a race, would instantly become one of the most fun pages on perchance. Especially with database storage so progress is keepable instead of wiped. Idk exactly how it would work yet because each page would need the option of basically being it's own little server. It's definitely possible tho, since each page is part of a bigger server ecosystem already.
anyway, those just some thoughts. im curious to see where it goes as much as teh rest of u
Arigatou sensei
Why perchance developer is lying?? Fine detail and overall image quality didn't improve but it only became worse. And it's clearly not 2x faster only slightly faster. Text rendering may be better that is all. So now ai chat is very broken and ai image is very worse. Perchance's update quality is in negative. 👎
That's fantastic news. There's moments perch really shines and you can see some fantastic quality and to have that all the time would be heaven.
Can we get an option to switch between the new and the old model?
Perchance is so cool, thank you for your work
glad to know! need more Dev posts been a while
Salute o7
Good good.
Take your time. As an old FORTRAN coder, I know too well the headaches. You'll get it right. Only gripe I have is that sometimes it bogs down to nothing. Like yesterday, it was doing fine, but today, I think it's protesting the cold, because it takes almost three minutes to generate one paragraph. You got this.
No problem, wait as long as necessary. I've been with Perchance for a while now and I won't leave it in difficulties. Keep calm.
Thank you ive hope AI chat bots become normal because current chat bot are...werid. Speaking of image gen, can you improve list of charachters can be generated? Like Alex, Clover and Sam from Totally Spies, or Will, Irma, Taranee, Cornelia and Hay Lin from W.I.T.C.H? Because auto random prompt aware of these charachters but cannot generate thier basic likeness like Lola Bunny or Ariel from Little Mermaid. Im suprised in old models gen it possile to generate basic likeness of Sophitia from Soulcalibur games, but on new model gen it require write better prompt.
So anyway good luck,
for legal reasons the image gen is not trained on celebrities anymore.
I'm just happy to hear you're still working on it and giving it attention. What is new with the text gen exactly? I have yet to notice any difference, but maybe I'm not looking in the right places...
Oh, hello, dear dev. I did also dunk on this new text model - and I'm still behind my words. Today it completely crashed the story I was so invested in. Again. It just kept escalating and escalating, editing my replies, editing AI's didn't help. I still use the image generator here, it's very good, not gonna lie! But the AI chat? Um, sorry, I migrated over to Silly Tavern some time ago, so I'll enjoy that instead. I hope that the AI text model is beneficial to some, but just not for me. And I won't pressure anyone to make any tweaks in this model, since this is free and I migrated elsewhere anyway. Just wanna wish you all the best for the new year and thank you for that half a year I used this AI chat.
Dear Dev, if you are reading this, I cannot continue my stories until I see a major improvement on the text model that happend to me and majority of us users back in September of last year, I have been using Perchance for nearly two years now, I am not being mean, I am just trying to be nice, I cannot stand the aggressiveness of the characters. Thank you.
Hard agree, text model for AI Story Generator is totally terrible.
I have stories from years, and right now it's just straight up nonsense, even ingoring the whole plotline or outputting texts that has just no correlation to the previous ones. It jumps scenes without being told to, or totally refuses to change a scene and follow the new one. It ignores context and details, and makes characters know things they very clearly should not. A few months ago it worked relatively fine, even with the new AI being sometwhat bad at storytelling, now it's plain dumb and even senseless.
Sorry to hear it works badly for others. I just used the ai-story-generator and had the best performance I have ever gotten! By a mile! I would like to know what LLM it is so I can find it and download it for my own use. Given the comments here about the model identifying itself differently, I'm not sure what to believe!
Thanks for all the hard work!
We love you pookie bear. Dont listen to the loud minority who insult you and want the old model. Good things come with patience.
I've personally not really seen much insults so far? It's mostly just complaining or criticism but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place?
on reddit, mostly.
Thanks! Hanging in there still using it daily and I have found quite a few workarounds and instructions that seem to work or correct though the engine is VERY stubborn sometimes. Somtime I just change my story as I go to just handle situations. Keep up the good work.
thank you so much hope image getting better i always send you the feedback through the feedback form in the image generator hope you read it
I thank.you for letting us know on the progress we love you ;3
Also by Image quality is it like Resolution wise? And possibly a suggestion here but I understand if it's not doable Will we someday get an upgrade to our Text to Image Resolution with added 768x1024 Resolutions someday?