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I came here around the time the rif app shut down, and the general vibe I get from this place is much more negative than when I joined. Is Lemmy growing more toxic or is it just my imagination?

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[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Yes, blocking posts from .ml and dbzer0 helped. Same goes for just liberally blocking anybody, who starts screaming instead of participating nicely.

I've been considering blocking .world, as some of the mods are behaving like power tripping reddit mods. But it's the biggest instance and without it I wouldn't have any content.

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[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I first joined and started using Lemmy probably a couple months before you.

Back then, when anyone was being uncivil, needlessly hostile, rude, or aggressive, there was a very high likelihood that other users would call it out quickly. Many, many wonderful folks did it on my behalf multiple times and that's one of the big reasons I stuck around, because that's cool as hell if you ask me. I'm here to enjoy myself and have a little fun, not to be verbally abused because some problematic person lacks reading comprehension or prefers to make wild assumptions based on very limited information.

I won't say there's been a recent uptick in hostility, unless your definition of lately is a lot more lenient than my own. However, I will say that with each new outrage from Reddit comes an influx of new users and with each new influx, it's only a short period of time before I notice things are suddenly a bit less nice, friendly, and casual.

Sadly, things are at the point now where I rarely bother to read any responses, replies, or messages in my inbox. I usually just go in there to click "mark as read" to clear the notifications without reading them and move on. There's just too much negativity directed my way, often super randomly to the most innocuous stuff, or random users I can't recall ever interacting with who somehow seem to have a chip on their shoulder. It's actually kind of bizarre at times. Regardless, for my style of participation, which is mostly parodying old people facebook and sharing random anecdotes, feeling like I need to ignore replies is still okay, I guess.

Anyway, glad I'm not the only one who has noticed the shift. Wish there were an easy button to get things back to the welcoming place Lemmy used to be.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

No. Why? Are you accusing me of something? Are you threatening me??

/s

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Replies have certainly taken on a more Reddit-like quality to some things. Like rude for the sake of being rude.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

[insert funny rude response here]

[–] groet@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I also noticed how every post just has 5-10 random down votes. Like perfectly fine post in the correct community, not controversial, no rules broken, -10 down votes.

[–] Leax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Tempting to downvote that post, not gonna lie

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[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Post quality go down. Echo chamber go up.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It seems hostility is the norm across most social media.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Block and block often. Now if lemmy admins will just unspez their attitude about reciprocal blocks I can cull the herd of raging douche nozzles infesting every online community.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I haven’t noticed anything in particular, and I do post in more controversial areas like Politics and News. There’s always a chance to get negative feedback in those c/.

I have noticed some ancient-ass reddit-type reposts of the same old shit that circulates reddit, though. That junk can die.

E: maybe I stand corrected. I asked for a source for a claim and got downvoted because someone’s ego couldn’t take it or it was too hard to provide a source.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

From a neutral viewpoint, the world is more divided than ever, no matter what values you have, there's someone who opposes them with few, if any exceptions. Those opposing viewpoints have only grown in strength and number on the Internet, for years.

Additionally, the "us vs them" mentality of everyone is blinding them to even understanding why someone would disagree with their viewpoint. Of course that's not everyone, but it's a growing and very loud group.

Political violence is also starting to run rampant. Escalation after escalation. It keeps building.

So in this time of having a global voice, that can reach hundreds of millions of people with a single tweet or comment or thread or post or whatever, and with so much growing hatred among different political groups, it's unsurprising to me that conflict is rising.

Additionally, Lemmy is growing. Not everyone that joins Lemmy will be the same type of person that joined Lemmy after the Reddit API incident. That influx of people had a very similar value set, because they almost all came here from Reddit for the same reason. So there's at least a good amount of overlap in everyone's values.

Over time, more and more diverse people have been joining Lemmy, and it's not surprising that they have differing opinions on a lot of things.

This outcome was pretty much inevitable.

As far as I'm concerned, as long as it's done respectfully and civilly, then disagree. Debate. Try to understand the opposing viewpoint, even if you don't agree with it.

[–] Bring_Back_Buggy_Whips@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes.

I change accounts far more often now.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I considered making a really insulting comment on this just for fun, but I just can't be arsed.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It seems that out in the real world and here in the digital world we have been allowed/engineered to lose our civility and respect. Reminds me of the rock orchestra DEVO.

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[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The hostility has been here for quite a while, though. When the migrating happened from Reddit to Lemmy it was all nice and cozy but after a year or so the hostility was already there. Very often people did not want to acknowledge this (and started to heavily downvote the particular comment stating this). Plus with what is happening* in the world, the negativity from reality seeps into the digital world.

But anyway, the best thing to do is just block anyone who is hostile towards you for no actual reason. Has no point to put energy and/ or time in it.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

mid 2023 felt honeymoony, but i knew would eventually wear off

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Reading the comments here brings up a question I've had. Does it really make any difference what instance I'm on? I thought the whole benefit of federation was that it does not matter where I'm coming from.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 month ago

Somewhere on your instance page, usually at the bottom, you can click "instances" and see which are federated and not.

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[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

Yup, it's happened to me a couple of times this week alone. It's getting silly.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 4 points 1 month ago

You want a piece of this??

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, it seems to be.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago

Lately? I find it comes and goes.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

Not really besides maybe more conservative trolls upsetting people in their usual favourites like unpopular opinion communities. Negative communities are troll attracting nectar generally.

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