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Canada has had 100 per cent tariffs on all EVs imported from China since last October

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seems like a no-brainer. Canada doesn't have an EV production to speak of. I believe it was originally done to support the U.S. EV industry, but do we really need to be doing that?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh, was it? If that was the only justification… yeah. Seems like a straightforward play.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk, US or US industry has a choke hold on politicians. I feel our politicians has no political will to negotiate against the US.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Maybe the real "elbows up" was the useless neolibs we made along the way.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

made sense since us has 100% tariffs on chinese EVs , to prop up the overpriced US evs.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It might have been the only official justification. However I suspect that there’s unofficial ones, like “we are worried it’ll come with spyware that directly reports everything to China” or “if we do this we might becoming mainly dependent on Chinese cars, which then means China can pull them out from under us, maybe disable them remotely, etc”.

Depends on how much they thought this through and how much they trust China now and in the next few decades.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

cant be any worst than the spyware for the US govt.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

Well ideally I suspect people would just want a product without the spyware.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see your point, however, China is consistent, and it is not nearly so imperialistic as the United States. I'm not sure which one I trust less.

[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

To me this is a difference between a chaotic type of untrustworthiness and a more stable type of untrustworthiness. Wouldn’t want to pick either if it can be avoided.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a win-win?

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm fine with that as long as ZERO personal info is transmitted to China.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Yeah.... about that

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

I can't understand why there is no law against that - at least give users a choice. This concern is valid for all cars, not only EVs and not only Chinese.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

As long as they are safety rated for here i guess it's alright.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They export them in droves to Europe, and I'd be very surprised if there's a single thing on a vehicle which isn't regulated stricter in Europe than in North America. Maybe emissions in California? Not much emissions from an EV, though.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yuppers so that part would be fine. I'm not excited about more of my data being sold to another country/company though....

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Got bad news for you if you think any modern car isn't already doing that. :(

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oh I know they are, another reason to keep my older vehicle running

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You think American cars aren’t doing that?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No, that's why I said another country/company

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They sell them in EU, that have higher standards than us.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Even though EU has substantial tariffs on them. If we lowered the tariffs or eliminate them, we'd have dirty cheap cars and no more domestic car industry over night.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm asking this in honest curiosity. Do we have a domestic car industry anymore? Does a Can-Am Spyder count? I might just be tired this morning, but I can't think of a single Canadian car manufacturer of any volume right now.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, sorry, I was referring to the EU, not Canada.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I probably should have noticed that. I'll chalk it up to an early Sunday brain.

[–] frog_meister@lemmings.world 4 points 1 month ago

It'll never happen.

Westerners don't like competition.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago