Linux Phones

BankID is so ass, the one we have here in Finland is a bit better, but the one we have in Estonia is the best.

The Estonian one is by far the most comfortable to use of the three, with even a working and maintained Linux version. It is also tied to the PCKS#11 certificate stored in your ID card, instead of a corporate bank account.

I know some people on the internet is against the whole idea behind digital identification. But if its only used for things that would normally require identification in the physical world. Like banks and government interactions. I don't have anything against it per say. It can even be administered and handed out by a company (although that is against my personal ideology) but they have to then be forced to either release the source code or support at least one distro of Linux, or flatpack works too. Let's not get in to snap packages, it opens a whole other can of worms.

This is the worst part. They all have functional websites, but to login you need digital ID(bankID) so one app is acting as the gate keeper

The problem isn't really the app, it's that a private organisation is controlling the default digital identification system, and how it is accessed. Until 2014 they had a Linux client for it, but it was discontinued. BankID has been around for a long time, so it's absolutely engrained in so many aspects of society here.

Past few weeks, these are instances I've used BankID, off the top of my head

• Had to pick up a DHL parcel in person, authenticated with BankID
• Picked up a parcel from a PostNord locker, BankID required
• Called my mobile phone provider many times (fuck telenor), authenticated with BankID
• Paid my bills, BankID to log in, as well as authenticate payment
• Bought a game expansion, BankID required to use my debit card
• Bought groceries (online, I struggle going out to groups of people), BankID at checkout
• Updated my dog's food subscription, BankID at checkout
• Checked in at dentist office, BankID to authenticate that I was present
• Digital mailbox to get a bill, BankID

Honestly I'm sure I've missed a bunch. In general though, doing something digitally and authenticating with BankID is the primary way of getting things done here. The "old fashioned way" is unconventional, and tends to be woefully slow. When my previous roomie didn't have a social security number (and subsequently not access to BankID) every single administrative thing they needed doing took forever, registering for school, doing tests, updating licenses, registering your address, even just plain buying things can be tricky.

But I still won't be able to use it to access those mentioned services, due to the Digital ID not working on Linux.

So you're saying if we keep declaring [current year] as the "Year of the Linux Mobile Phone", eventually it will become true!

Why PostmarketOS and not Mobian, Sailfish, or Ubuntu Touch?

Why not fork Android?

What hardware deals are being made between Postmarket and phone manufacturers? Do they have a development timeline? How far are you guys from 1.0? Come on, action speaks.

Was talking about FSF specifically

I can drive a manual, does that help?

You cheeky cunt, I love it. Strong responses too. I think we got ourselves a cottage industry.

I've done a lot of technical writing and knowledge articles in my career. I'm in!

Isn't the default for Android nowadays Kotlin? Which, yes, still runs on the JVM, but the language itself is much nicer designed.

What is annoying about Android, is that whatever language you use, YOU NEED SOME JAVA GLUE to make your app, and the signature thing. When I tried making the "hello world" apk I was astonished to see how hard it is compared to Linux dev. There has to be something wrong that led to the disgrace that is Android Studio (+10GB or something, I just recall it being ultra bloat) to start up with android dev.