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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Chat control mandates a piece of software on your device that spies on what you do and sends that to the government and their partners.

Chat control does not protect children.

Chat control is a way for governments to stay in front of any dissent and organizing efforts from it's citizens. This makes it safer and easier to take away rights and ultimately gives a path away from democracy.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is what the article says:

What's been nicknamed by its critics, Chat Control, is the European Commission's response to online child safety. As per the latest iteration of the text, all messaging platforms operating in the EU would be obliged to scan all URLs, pictures, and videos shared by their users in the lookout for child sexual abuse material (CSAM).

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I feel like the execution is going to be on this level:

Ying Jang’s Seefood app

[–] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 month ago (3 children)

S L A M

I really hate modern media. What's wrong with criticise, condemn, or even denounce?

[–] SW42@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just you wait until the EU will CLAP BACK at the critics.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago

Chat Control Slammed, EU Claps Booty

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Lenny@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

In the back of my Dragula 🗣️

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Da da da

Da da da

Make some noise b-boys

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/i9loer9jgUY?j9x1N539_72jjN6

Every time I hear slam all i can think of is this ad

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If all parents checked their children device just a bit... I'm struggling to block some yt channels now for example either via DNS or family link, but there's no way. Help parents do these kind of things instead of letting govs go the privacy breach way to make us dumb citizens.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

This has nothing to do with children. It's a proposal by technologically inept people who argue that encryption needs to be removed but encryption is so basic that it isn't really feasible to do so. You can make the access harder but that is only an issue for your average joe. Individuals with criminal energy who this is supposed to be about will continue to encrypt their communication while regular users will give up their privacy.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t think you can block YouTube channels via DNS.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

insert joke about the OSI model

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Definitely a layer 8 problem

[–] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Are you stupid? There's no layer...
...oh I see.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, I'd rather call it the Ötzi model

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

DNS should allow us to create a blacklist of sites, it would avoid to trash our phone CPU for some useless antivirus, family link (and I guess other MDM) is already enough. If not the DNS, then family link itself.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

But a YouTube “channel” is an application/service specific concept, not exposed in any way dns would be aware of.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Help parents do these kind of things

No offense to parents of Lemmy and I am not generalising too much, but in my experience, many parents are lazy. I'm sure you'd have heard from your own parents or another the expression "didn't they teach you that in school?" Parents pass on the responsibility to someone else who have their own social boundaries when it comes to teaching children.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's why I try to push ChromeOS and family link so much, it's the only 100% good thing Google created for free, both for school and family mdm. And once they're e 18 they'll be free to roam with MS, apple, Linux or whatever they want

[–] brainscan@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I promote Linux in my family, Signal for chat. Selfhosted Immich for pictures. This the right way to teach my kids.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's your way, I tried with fluffy chat and goto social

[–] brainscan@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem with niche social media platforms like this is that your friends don't use them, so you end up using it in a kind of vacuum.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

Which is appealing when you have your friends and you want to have fun with them without chat control and Sauron watching your fart-like messages

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly so many nations are in the same page with this, I think it's preparation for wartime.

You need to not only he able to track down foreign agents, but also yeah strangle dissent and control the narrative.

Not saying it's good one way or the other, but everyone trying to do a similar (hated) thing at the same time is way too coincidental.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 1 points 4 weeks ago

I've heard that war is good for business.

Lots of huge corporation owners are suffering from making a long series of head-up-their-own-ass stupid choices, right now.

Now they must choose between hiring experienced advisors to guide a slow chain of reasonable pro-social long term profitable choices - or starting a bloody war.

I know which choice I'm expecting.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

which is not end-to-end encrypted either

[–] brainscan@piefed.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Matrix was here, he’d laugh too.

[–] brainscan@piefed.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago

So back to IRC?