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Radosław Sikorski upbraids Moscow for being “incapable of living in peace” with its neighbors following a series of incursions into NATO airspace.

Russia shouldn't complain at the United Nations if its missiles or aircraft are shot down after entering NATO airspace, Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski warned Moscow on Monday.

Sikorski was speaking at an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council in New York. The summit was convened after three Russian military jets entered Estonian airspace for 12 minutes on Sept. 19 before being repelled by Italian F-35s representing NATO.

"I have only one request to the Russian government: If another missile or aircraft enters our space without permission, deliberately or by mistake, and gets shot down and the wreckage falls on NATO territory, please don't come here to whine about it," Sikorski said. "You have been warned."

Not to be outdone, Sikorski sent a further barb Moscow's way in New York: "We know you don't care for international law, and you are incapable of living in peace with your neighbors. Your insane nationalism contains a lust for domination that will not cease until you realize that the age of empires is over and that your empire will not be rebuilt."

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 87 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Less talk and more action please.

NATO member Turkey shot down a Russian jet some years ago, and the planet didn’t perish in a nuclear war, so we know we can do that.

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 months ago

Fairly sure it will happen. Balts and Poland are fed up enough.

Sikorsky is also known for not throwing words around.

Just a reminder Turkey shot down the nazi jet after

  1. Issuing an official note to the fascists that they will shoot it down

  2. russkies entering their airspace multiple times before.

  3. warning the pilot multiple times before it entered their airspace.

The decision to shoot it down did not come out of the blue.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 71 points 2 months ago

That really goes without saying. Turkey shut down a Russian jet that was fucking around. That is the only way they will learn. They are jetting around like they are the baddest mother fuckers in the air while their equipment is pretty lame.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory. If they come again, shoot them down and look where they land. Case closed.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 months ago

The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory.

Only because they believe it should be their territory.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Debris from plains that are shot down don't land directly below where they were shot down.

[–] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sure, they land tens or hundreds of km from where they were shot down. Makes sense.

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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 months ago

Good for Poland. I'm tired of these Putinganda-fuckers "accidently" sending incursions into their neighbours' territories

[–] Siegehammer85@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

More words, to be followed by more incursions without action. We should have started shooting down Russian air-junk right from the first invasion in 2014. Historians will not be kind about floppy dicked Europe/NATO after it’s too late….

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nah, Poland is the one nation in Europe that's itching for a fight with Moscow. They've just been holding back.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago

They're ready to send troops to the frontlines of Ukraine last I heard.

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[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Without action? Come on. Drones went over Poland, shot down. Poland isn't really holding back, but it can't charge blindy either.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I am also sick of the inaction. I hope they are a real warning and not more words.

I really like this line though and I will be repeating it to anyone who is listening, "incapable of living in peace".

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 30 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I wonder how the vatniks will twist this into NATO being the bad guys again.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can see it now "more nato aggression! Of course russia needed to defend itself by invading a sovereign country!"

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago

"What was russia doing in NATO airspace?" "They just got lost! Jesus! Cant you take a joke?"

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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If it's one thing the dicktasters... I mean dictators... of today do a lot of at a regular basis, it's whine. It's the mark of a little man. Pathetic.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hey! We dicktasters don't like being associated with authoritarians

[–] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I have this sneaking suspicion that this response might be in the Russian "plan". I have a feeling that the goal is to show that America won't lift a finger to stop them, and thereby break NATO and badly damage US power. If Poland downs a Russian jet, and Trump says "Hey! You guys have to be nice to Russia" it will read as Russia calling NATO's bluff while maintaining just enough plausible deniability to likely avoid even European countries from pushing for a real response.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

brought to you by the same master planners that thought they'd take Ukraine in a month

[–] saimen@feddit.org 27 points 2 months ago

You mean 3 days

Not only that, but somehow since Russia is an innocent victim and they know America won't stop them, they might as well go ahead and try a ground invasion and see what happens

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[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 months ago (29 children)

I kinda expected ww3 would be started by China instead of russian idiocracy

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I assumed the USA would do something monumentally stupid.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is a given. The only question is where? Venezuela? Russia? Strait of Taiwan? West Philippines sea? Greenland? Iran? North Korea? California? There's really no telling where they'll take out their dick and start helicoptering it.

[–] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

We're busy invading ourselves at the moment, give us some time.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vlad. Vlad. Don't be bad. Putin. Putin. Stop that shootin'.

[–] teft@piefed.social 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Fyi Vlad isn’t the diminutive of Vladimir. Vladimir is “shortened” to Vova or Volodya. Vlad is short for Vladislov.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well, makes at least as much sense as James being shortened to Jim

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And Richard is obviously Dick

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] teft@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Margaret as Peggy always blew my mind. Or Elizabeth as Buffy.

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[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought that Vladimir got shortened to Dimi. Or is that pejorative?

[–] teft@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dimi is shortened from Dimitri.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this why Russian literature never makes any damn sense to me?

[–] teft@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago
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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Well that's swell and all, but you can't say that not do it. You can't make that kind of bluff to a bully like Russia and not back it up. Cuz if you do back down that's just emboldening the bully. They will view it as weakness and an invitation to go further. If they don't shoot down the next plane that crosses their border Russia will escalate significantly.

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