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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course she forgives him, he's the reason the money is all hers now.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

That section of the far right is basically why Kirk was doing a "comeback tour" they've been harassing him for years.

It's a safe bet she understands that the shooter was another faction of the far right and that if people keep talking about it, the well dries up. Because she's lived for years with their harassment

When right wingers think "a leftist" killed him, they give blindly

They figure out a right-winger killed a right-winger, and they'll all start picking sides.

trump is so anxious to push this, he's going to fuck around and people will hear what really happened. Especially since the shooter has zero reason to try for a plea deal now.

He's taking it to trial and going on the stand, because every politician involved has said they want the death penalty.

The shooter literally has nothing to lose.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's taking it to trial and going on the stand, because every politician involved has said they want the death penalty.

Is this speculation or has there been a statement?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About if they're going to push for the death penalty? Yes, the governor and Trump have both explicitly called for it, and the judge told him it was on the table when reading him his charges

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant about Robinson taking the stand.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

Oh... I misread that as taking a stand, but that seems unlikely seeing as he's just been provided a lawyer. That's a very bold move in a case like this, and this is negligently early in the process to decide that

With how much misinfo there is in this case, I wouldn't believe it unless it comes from the lawyer directly

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This dumb fucking rapist couldn’t even keep it about a memorial to a shit stain that was murdered.

Had to weaponize it and make it about himself and further push his civil war agenda he wants so badly that’s already started.

Fuck sakes.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 31 points 1 year ago

Of course he had to, that was the entire point of it all. This was a huge Nuremberg rally in memory of their Horst Wessel.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

empathy for kirk? he would be spinning in his grave

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holding hat solemnly, looking down, nodding :"it's what he would have wanted."

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

When an evangelical christian 'forgives' you for something, what that actually is is them forgiving themselves for literally anything they do to you after that.

That is them saying that you are totally lost, do not count as a real human being with agency, and thus anything further they do to you is justified, because in their minds, you are not capable of making sensible decisions.

It is a threat, framed deceptively as kindness, and yes, they know they are lying.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This absolutely nails it. (Grew up in a southern baptist church.)

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Solidarity to a another survivor, though we're probably from different sides of the continent, and the doctrine and rituals may differ somewhat, the underlying psychology is largely the same at its core.

'Well, bless your heart' + a shit eating grin ain't exactly a common saying where I'm from, but I know exactly what it means.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Escaped a long time ago. I never bought religion. So I enjoyed those sentiments and socially sanctioned holier than thou shunning for decades. Thankfully up north now.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not saying she hasn't actually forgiven him, but I will say I doubt genuine forgiveness for the killing of one's spouse is happening under a month in, given forgiveness requires actually processing the harm done, and that actions are far easier than words. Will she call for him to be shown mercy rather than death? Will she work to heal divides? Will she condemn calls for retaliation?

It's so easy to say that you forgive someone then allow others to retaliate in full force. But the forgiveness Christians are supposed to have is modeled by a dying christ pleading for mercy for his killers.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

She has not truly forgiven him, she is being a manipulative psycopath.

She will not press for mercy, she will not work to heal divides, beyond possibly those within the right wing so as to shore up the basis of her own political power.

And she absolutely will not condemn calls for retaliation, unless a scenario arises where she personally would stand to lose social status or material wealth by not doing so.

She is a heartless fascist, sure, she has emotions, but her whole life is mostly all about learning how to weaponize that.

Just as horny men grovel and simp for a woman showing skin, 'Godly' men have a perfect excuse to be extremely angry when they witness a 'Good Christian Woman' making a show of being distraught, but tough, and ultimately leaving it all up to God.

Its like move 1, page 1, on the sympathy generating playbook for these people.

While Gandhi is a much more uh, morally complex figure, shall we say, than a lot of people know about, and this quote may be apocryphal, it nevertheless roughly sums up how I feel about Christian extremists:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 32 points 1 year ago

Of course she forgives him. In a split second she went from an enslaved conservative wife, to a multi millionaire to top tier conservative grifter candidate. She literally spent a solid chunk of her speech talking about how married women aren't slaves. I have literally never heard anyone say this kind of thing at a funeral before. These people are vile, and they tell on themselves constantly.

She's absolutely set for life now, and I look forward to all of the future tabloid fodder about her and all of the vile Christian men in her circle who will try to get a piece of that action in the coming years.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does that make her a foe of trump?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 25 points 1 year ago

Eventually everyone becomes a foe of Trump

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

trump flatout said he's going to take her dead husbands company...

If she's smart, she is a foe of trump. Because trump won't hesitate to steal from a widow and children

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like how all these brave defenders of freedom somehow manage to never actually serve in the military.

Kirk applied to West Point, and when he didn't make the cut blamed everyone but himself. He could have joined the Army and gone through OCS, but decided that it was better to let other people die for his freedom.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out that a person does not have to serve in the military in order to actual defend our freedoms. In fact, I'd argue that there have been very few people in the military since WW2 to have actually fought for our freedoms.

But you know who did fight for our freedoms? Who literally took a bullet for our freedoms, but still kept fighting? Larry Flynt. He did more to protect our 1st Amendment rights than any living politician (at least that I can think of at the moment).

We need more heroic, piece of shit, smut peddlers like Larry Flynt... when America looks in the mirror, he is who we should see reflected.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 1 year ago

According to a quick check Larry tried to join the army at age 15 and was rejected. He later served in the Navy.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago

Or he could have gone to any senior military college which gives you a commission on graduation.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, because the guy that put a hole through her husband's neck made her even richer, which is all she cares about. She probably likes him more than she liked Kirk.

[–] kittyjynx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

She told her daughter that "Daddy is on a business trip with Jesus so he could afford her blueberry budget". Fucking evil.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe her for a moment

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why? Maybe she didn't give two shits about Kirk. If he lived the way he talked she most likely was in an abusive relationship. Now he dead and she gets all those millions.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago

Because shortly after the shooting she went on camera and proclaimed that she was going to take over his media accounts and his media legacy (basically his business) and run it in his spirit. This is all about the money.

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Majority of white women voted for Trump. Abusive relationship no doubt, but she was probably into it.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Bet if he was black, queer, or left there would be no forgiveness.

[–] Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conflicting messaging on brand for conservatives

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 1 year ago

Conflicting messages is baked in. The enemy is so strong we have to be prepared to fight every day, and so weak that they must plot in secret.

Im surprised he hasn’t hired her for some administration job, he loves surrounding himself with women who look like her

He hates people who dress up like him for Hallowe'en.

Awww... She forgives the Republican who killed her husband.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Forgiveness from Serena ‘kKk’ Joy is always special.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

how can she forgive his killer when we don't know who it is? (also when it was probably actually the government lol)

also, don't care erikkka, you're still a nazi

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