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[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather experts make decisions instead of having a big general vote. The UK fucked themselves in the worst ways possible in a referendum vote because a whole bunch of them hate immigrants. Don't think Canadians wouldn't do the same thing. We'd vote for 200 years of isolation over a half decent trade deal just because people don't like Trump and are willing to harm themselves if slightly inconveniences him.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago

"We should defer to our leaders if they want to appease fascists"

Is this really what you wanna go with?

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be a waste of time and money. Trump isn't going to honour any deal so why go to all this effort to pretend it's a real thing?

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't even have time to get it to a referendum, the way Trump 2.0 is ruling.

"Don't appease dictators" - Literally every history book

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Bingo. It'd just be a chance for him to insert himself and insist it be called the "we love Trump" referendum.

[–] mereo@piefed.ca 10 points 2 months ago

I'm against it. We elected people to represent us. Let the experts deal with it.

Case in point: Brexit. People were swayed to vote "yes" because they were told life would be great. Now, they regret their choice.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This, too, is buying into Trump's agenda, in a skewed kind of way. There's a reason that he publicizes every detail of his negotiations in the media. The average citizen isn't capable of making a rational decision on anything about the US at this point.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Carney is just going to kick the ball around until the US midterms next fall.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

If he lasts that long. This govt could honestly get their fall budget voted down - and if it has the cuts to the civil service that Carney is promising, you have to wonder if he would even hold onto his Ottawa seat.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think this piece is fantastic, however there is an approximately 0% chance Carney would commit to this, because he is a sniveling coward who cares infinitely more about the portfolios of his Brookfield and banker pals than about democracy, the rule of law, human rights, or climate.

I dare you to prove me wrong, Liberals.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I want to believe that it is barging tactics to bend Trump over the Barrel and have that Cracker F him up when the CUSMA renewal comes up.

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's funny you should say this, about the most conservative-like and conservative leaning leader that the Liberals have ever~~y~~ had.

The only thing the modern day conservative party stands for is grift and insulting others, and your comment further proves just that.

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's funny you seem to think I'm a conservative

[–] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where did I say you are conservative?

[–] patatas@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 months ago

Where did I say that you said that?