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Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While celebrating a billionaire getting their just desserts is always fun, not really sure that this is a reflection of the decency of the Vietnamese government.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Since there's no rational hope of addressing the other 3k or so billionaire parasites on Earth without building a really big Titanic wreckage tour sub and making little paths of stock certificates leading to it like reese's pieces in ET, I'll take whatever incidental vicarious revenge against humanity's oppressors I can get.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, celebrate the revenge, for sure. Just don't mistake it for decency. Vietnam is about as corrupt as India.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We're no less corrupt in the US, merely more expensive.

Our cheats just hire lobbyists to make their corrupt practices legal, shout out to Citizens United, and/or hire enough lawyers to make the consequences meaningless, like fining a company that makes billions a year thousands for profitable criminal activity.

Our "solution" to corruption is simply to make it legal for the right price. Donald Trump should have lost his empire and gone to jail for his business practices long before he was a game show host, let alone POTUS, but he learned and inherited enough from daddy to understand how to wield American style corruption, and he's still free.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We’re no less corrupt in the US, merely more expensive.

We're very corrupt in the US. That's not the same as being corrupt to the same degree. I... would encourage looking into the relative corruption of countries. We, in the US, are near the bottom of the the list as far as developed countries go (beaten out by only such luminaries as Italy and Greece), but we aren't even close to as bad as it can get. We're just more aware of our own corruption than of other countries. I mean, we are Americans. We're barely aware of the existence of other countries, much less their corruption.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I can't get behind a government giving the death penalty to anybody for any reason

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since when is it leftist to support the death penalty, let alone take glee in it. This is like the boomer FB shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm against the death penalty in general, but I also acknowledge that in terms of tangible damage to humanity, any billionaire walking the Earth makes any serial killer who has ever walked the Earth seem positively quaint by scale.

I also recognize that we are living under class occupation. The owner class handily won the class war by convincing most of the developed world not to fight it half a century ago.

The peasants don't have the luxury of taking prisoners. We are the losers of a war, in spite of the fact that many have come to worship their occupying oppressors.

Keeping the most destructive humans locked away and well fed until they die of natural causes is a peacetime luxury for those in charge, and unless you're holding a reprehensible amount of capital, that isn't us. You might believe we are in peacetime, but if we refuse to stop them, and it looks that way, they will force our shared, communal habitat to stop us all through their insatiable, sociopathic avarice.

We love to think we're not, but we're still subjects wholly dependant on this world, even the owners activily attacking us and it simultaneously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

well fucking said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The French revolution shows that the guilotines don't necessarily stop when the aristocrats are all dead. I'm not enthusiastic about mob justice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

“We” isn’t this the case of other billionaires getting mad at one billionaire?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Vietnam is a Socialist Oriented Market Economy.

86% of Vietnamese people own their own homes, 70% are farmers because the government will allocate farm land to anyone who proves they can raise crops.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And remember kids, 73% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

Gotta serve those numbers with some sauce

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think we should have billionaires but celebrating state sponsored murder is fucking gross

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol too bad. Eat the rich

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also how does it get to 12.5 billion before people do something? Had they intervened with something less severe at 1 billion then there would still be 11.5 billion and a life not lost.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

This is a communist country and a show trial for someone fell out of favor, not am actual fraud case

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a fan of the death penalty

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Me neither, but killing some of the capitalist class has always been part of leftist revolutions so I can let this one slide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Or just those that are not on "the line"? Like Russians falling out of windows. What is the actual truth behind this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's typical communist competitor purges, it has nothing to o with redistribution of wealth.