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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 208 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it's important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn't a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn't a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 35 points 3 months ago (2 children)

As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.

The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political "wrong speak".

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[–] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

thanks man, finally someone else saying it!

We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?

In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.

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[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 129 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Martial law is next! I tell ya.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 96 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is damn near the same thing, without all the fancy steps.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 59 points 3 months ago (25 children)

Those "fancy steps" are the only things that would make this legal. Without them, all he's doing is violating the Constitution. DC presents a unique loophole for this. Anywhere else, and he's breaking the law.

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago (20 children)

Surely this time he’s done for.

Hate to break it to you man but the law does not matter. It really never has for the rich and powerful but he has laid it all bare

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've said time and time again we let the entire Bush admin off the hook for war crimes... Trump hasn't even hit war crimes levels yet. Did anyone think we were ever going to hold him to account when we wouldn't even do anything about that?

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I think it started sooner, with Nixon being pardoned and all the senior Reagan White House officials getting away with Iran-Contra

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Even farther back. The mishandling of Reconstruction of the South after Lincoln's assassination.

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[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago (24 children)

He’s breaking the law all over the US, when you’re rich… they let you. This is no different. Let’s see some consequences somewhere.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 3 months ago
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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 86 points 3 months ago (1 children)

FYI - He tried this in Portland last time:

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/17/892277592/federal-officers-use-unmarked-vehicles-to-grab-protesters-in-portland

Bonus: The guy in charge of it, Chad Wolf (not making that up) had been illegally appointed and had no authority:

https://www.theusconstitution.org/litigation/dont-shoot-portland-v-wolf/

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 91 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How quickly people forgot that unmarked vans with unmarked personnel were kidnapping people off the streets of Portland during BLM

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"No the billionaire owned news told us they were l00ters!"

Nevermind the exact same rhetoric being used to suppress civil rights 40 years ago

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 64 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Helicopters have been flying low over Houston every couple hours all through the day for the last week.

I hope y'all liked our hard work in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Yemen, cause it's coming home

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[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (3 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

Normalize calling them the Trump/Epstein Files

We changed people saying "Trump fucked kids" to "Trump rapes kids" in just a few days.

Phrasing matters, and it especially matters to him. Once we call it the Trump/Epstein files, news orgs will too.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 months ago (8 children)

"Trump floats the idea of starting a civil war." FTFY.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 months ago (8 children)

He's getting everything prepared for when he denies the next election. He doesn't want to lose power to a pesky thing called democracy.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's way more than that. We're only 7 months in. This is complete power grab, complete takeover. Democracy will only barely matter by 2026. And there will be no loss to deny.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Getting the military in place for the coup.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (32 children)

but but but guys, Kamala Harris had a weird laugh….

/s

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean like when he wasted shit tons of money deploying the national guard to those places so they could sit on their ass, sleep in hallways, and then eventually leave because they weren't needed and no one asked for them in the first place?

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Don't frame it like it won't turn out to be a big deal. That's a bad idea, intentional or not. Deploying military assets against American citizens should be considered a serious escalation every single time it happens.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Fascists traditionally leave office in body bags

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dumbfuck really wants a ground war.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (7 children)

they dont fear confrontation because they think they have the means to jail, out-shoot, and out-kill the "Left"

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago

WTF is in those files???

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Are they Democrat cities by any chance? I assume he won’t also deploy them to Republican cities?

[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

One thing that the mayors of all of those cities have in common is that they are Democrats. One thing. There is another.

Muriel Bowser

Eric Adams

Brandon Johnson

Karen Bass

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

That is indeed the other thing.

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[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The most free country on the planet is now the most fascist.

Way to go America, yer fuckin’ winning.

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[–] MechanicalJester@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Short answer: good luck with that. Deployable up to 100K. Total population you're trying to control is 15 million. So 1 per 150 citizens.

Except it obviously would quickly need to include the Bay Area, St Louis, Indianapolis, Portland, Seattle etc

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 months ago (10 children)
[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Suspension of the constitution and President Trump for life.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even worse because when he dies we’re stuck with a techno facist dictatorship for the foreseeable future

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How did an allegedly civilized country allow one of the worst people imaginable to become their leader?

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