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Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license (www.nbcnews.com)

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surely this could backfire in so many hilarious ways?

Teach the parts that conservatives don't do, and teach your class to call out injustice everywhere.
Teach the bible in Aramaic or Ancient Hebrew, and give the kids 30 mins of study time to learn whatever they want from it.
Use it as an exercise to teach that many parts were written thousands of years ago, and doesn't have current medical or societal advancements, so that many parts might be up to interpretation.
Compare it to Islam, Judaism, and other sects of Christianity - and teach that they're basically the same thing and that everyone should get along.
Reference that the pope said years ago that even nonbelievers that led a good life would be offered a seat in heaven, so be nice and it'll all be fine.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You forgot "this is what hard-core Christians believe, this is where it contradicts itself, here are the 10 commandments including love thy neighbor and don't worship false idols".

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

You'll get de-licensed for teaching that, too

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Any of you remember Kitzmiller v. Dover? It was a case that essentially ruled that teaching ID/creationism was a theological doctrine and thus couldn't be included in the biology curriculum of schools across the country. While the issues here at not the same (teaching creationsim vs mandatory bible studies), they have the same ideological underpinnings. Unless we're talking about Sunday school*, schools must remain secular institutions where discussions of religions are from a neutral perspective in regards to the humanities. As to regards to a hypothetical Supreme Court case: considering how ultra-conservative the Supreme Court has become in recent years, I fear that they might side the theocrats.

*Are those still a thing?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Every time Democrats have an opportunity to increase the number of seats on the SCOTUS, they punt.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if the thinking is that once the proverbial seal on that lid is broken, the next administration would just Uno-reverse it by adding more of its preferred justices?

And, it's not like (aside from the first two damn years when it should have been done) they had a trifecta; although you could be assured Manchin or Senema(?) would have fucked them over.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Setting aside the fact that this would require a Senate majority, that's not even the worst outcome.

A broader spectrum of conservative judges means they need to triangulate across their generational and niche personal views. There is legit some amount of political space between Gorduch, Roberts, ACB, Judge Likes Beer, Uncle Thomas, and Discount Scalia.

Adding three more of them to match three more liberal judges means even more dissonance.

And who knows? Maybe we even start getting judges who didn't fall directly out of the Harvard pipeline.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

when the federal government makes everything a state's rights issue we get fifty states doing whatever the hell they want

obvious at this point Biden has either lost the reins or is intentionally letting the nation slip

very coincidental that we lost women's rights and we have a huge surge of religious oppression at the same time a prolife religious right leaning conservative democrat gets at the helm

[–] xhieron@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That kind of attitude lingers dangerously close to the everything-is-a-conspiracy-by-the-shadowy-cabal line of reasoning. Biden's a Catholic, but it's certainly not "obvious" that he's "intentionally letting the nation slip". You can scroll down barely a page on whitehouse.gov and watch the president commit to restoring the standard of Roe v Wade. It's under the statements in favor of Pride, committing to combating gun deaths, lowering housing costs, and protecting pensions. Joe Biden's executive orders have been the most progressive executive action since Roosevelt.

Here's something a lot of non-religious folks might not know: the evangelical right? They hate Catholics. The MAGAs hate them ideologically, but the ones running the show hate them because the Catholic Church is their competition when it comes to running private schools and otherwise lucrative community support institutions. Biden is absolutely not on their side, theologically or otherwise.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

his idea of committing is asking for donations and promising to look into that once the money hits a certain amount

living in the US either way feels like living in a Church fucking awful

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know that there is much Biden can do. The Federal government can't just tell a state no, they have to take them to court and prove that they are violating federal law. And we now have gerrymandered-to-hell legislatures violating federal law right and left and there's only so much time and so many resources.

I'm not going to tout Biden as the greatest president ever or anything, but I can't blame him for this. He's not responsible for putting Ryan Walters in his position and he doesn't have the power to get rid of him.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Biden has been a career politician longer than been alive or you perhaps

definitely blame him and all Democrats and Republicans

don't wake up one day and magically become progressive

he always has been right leaning and his party could have been at least shouting to the rooftops about the injustices but instead just deafening silence

did he even mention this at the debates last night? how about cop city? or anything relevant?

Good Ol' Silent Joe

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This news story broke yesterday and it's the weekend. Give him a few minutes before you denounce him for what he hasn't done.

We have such a ridiculous instant gratification culture.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

when the place you reside in is currently being threatened as is your way of life do expect the leader and chief of said place to put in an effort to say something on any platform he could as if he is our side in all this