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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sigh I hate getting into it on social media, but this is just blatantly untrue.

Hamas has shown just how brutal they are willing to be the past few days and they explicitly have in their charter the destruction of Israel. Hamas given the chance would absolutely ethically cleanse all of the Levant of Jews. The PLO has a martyr fund for dying while killing Israelis. Israel not fighting would absolutely lead to complete destruction.

On the other hand, if Israel wanted to, it could completely wipe out any and all Palestinian areas. Palestine has no real air force, navy, or artillery and wouldn't be able to stop them. The only reason Israel hasn't done so is they have decided not to.

This isn't commentary on the entire conflict or the history or who is right/wrong. I'm just pointing out that this is factually incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct, the situation is much more nuanced than a simple sign could say. Both sides have rights and very wrongs about them. The only thing that should really be on signs should be "both sides should stop the violence and talk it through", but we all know about how well that would go. Still, star trek taught me that should be the goal.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

“both sides should stop the violence and talk it through”

Hard to have a sit-down talk when one side (Palestine) outright says their goal is to kill all Jews and Christians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Someone lied to you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

Way to comment on something from over a year ago. And no nobody lied to me. I read the manifesto that Hamas publicly published.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

The best way to end war is to put the people who declare war on the front lines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

More like the other way around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

From the river to the sea!!!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How is this getting downvoted? Regardless what your opinion on the matter is, this is objectively true. Israeli forces and government have been pushing into Palestine more and more, forcibly removed Palestine people from their homes and settling people there. So, Palestine literally would not exist in a few more years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

It's downvoted because it's objectively false. Israel has been attacked since day on in attempt to remove it from the map. If they were to stop fighting they wouldn't exist. If it weren't for Palestine constantly fighting, there wouldn't even be a wall around Gaza.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Destruction of Israel is in Hamas' charter. This meme is beyond stupid.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Very disturbing that more than a few people are dumb enough to believe this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Glad I'm not a strawman. This would have fucking wrecked me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Just fucking leave each other be, go fight it out in CSGO or something. Wars are fucking stupid and pointless.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Incorrect. This statement is only true if Israel had started the war. Hamas started the War. Israel has to defend itself otherwise Hamas has already shown it will kill citizens of Israel. Hamas has gone as far as indoctrination of kids. You want to know who is in the right? The Palestinian National Authority. No one else

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

History is a really important subject. I think a lot of people just dont undrstand this conflict. And a lot of people who do understand it are evil. Basically nobody is in the right. Where do you put the israelis who lived there for generations? Where do you put the palestanians who lived there for several generations? How do you solve the religious and cultural conflicts. Its an extremely complicated war. Not to mention that its not the civilians who start a war its the stupid leaders and terrorists aka hamas, us, israeli government. Well this is my view i may have got things wrong but i dont know the exact details of it.

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