What did he say about John McCain? "I like people who weren't captured."
Trump has never given a shit about the military or veterans. I'm surprised at how many veterans love him.
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The military doesn't attract the brightest minds.
Reminds me of a joke that did the rounds shortly after Finland joined Nato.
Finnish general: "You know, it's difficult, we have mandatory military service, but around 15% are unfit for service"
Other Nato generals: "That 15% is where we have to recruit from"
Buddy, you do calculus under fire and report back to me how well you do. By the way, if you take too long you die. If you get the wrong answer, your friend dies.
I'm a reserve officer, trust me I have some idea. Also, you're missing the point by quite a margin.
I don't think I am. If you think everyone around you is dumb then I feel sorry for the people you're supposed to lead.
You're further proving that you missed the point.
Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
source, The Atlantic, September 3rd 2020
This is pretty much how narcissists think in a nutshell. It's essentially a mental disability that makes them incapable of understanding why they would care about people, especially people who can't adore or praise them (i.e. dead people). Emotional one-way street.
In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”
Arlington was property seized from Robert E. Lee and chartered to house dead Union soldiers after the civil war.
So it sounds like it was filled with winners, at least for a little while.
He got specific when attacking John McCain, "I like people who weren't captured."
If Hillarys people wouldn't have pushed trump so hard, it would have been McCain vs Hillary, McCain would have easily won...
It's insane how much better shit would be today if Hillary wouldn't have gambled or cared about literally anything more than being the first woman president.
McCain wasn't running in 2016.
You're right.
I was thinking he did but I guess it was Jeb! And Ted Cruz as the Republican establishment picks in 2016.
In fairness to Trump (there's a sentence I never thought I'd write...)
"“He said I stood over graves of soldiers and I said: ‘These people are suckers and losers,"
That's technically correct. He did not say those things in public.
Edit I watched the ad, it does not specify that Trump said these things in public, just that he said them which is true.
He said them privately to staff members.
Confirmed by Trump's former Chief of Staff, John Kelly:
But my favorite quote out of all this is the one that barely gets mentioned:
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/02/trump-troops-fallen-soldiers-john-kelly
Trump saying at a 2017 Memorial Day event in Arlington National Cemetery: "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"
Trump is ENTIRELY transactional. The idea that good men would fight a war for their country purely because it's the right thing to do escapes him entirely.
Trump is ENTIRELY transactional. The idea that good men would fight a war for their country purely because it’s the right thing to do escapes him entirely.
In fairness, you only need a bunch of good men to fight a war purely because it's the right thing in order to counter the bad men fighting a war in order to do a bad thing.
Maybe if Trump's attitude had been more common in Berlin in the 1930s, or more common in the US during the 1960s or in Israel or Russia during the 2020s, we'd have skipped a few nightmarish atrocities without having a bunch of good men perish in the process.
"What was in it for them?"
Sounds like a perfectly reasonable question to me... far more reasonable than simply assuming the people who perpetrated the US's colonialist mass-murder campaigns in the third world was simply "good men" (supposedly) "doing the right thing."
Good job making Trump sound more rational than you, hero.
This take just baffles me.. you can disapprove of a war, and still respect people willing to put their life on the line for something they believe is right. Even in war, opposing sides have a long history of showing their enemy a certain amount of personal respect, even though they clearly disagree about something to the point of killing each other over it.
Your take is just condescending and unempathetic. You can respect someone for sacrificing themselves without agreeing with them about what they're sacrificing themselves for. Regardless, it shouldn't be hard to see how someone fighting to depose an infamously brutal dictator (Iraq) or a fundamentalist regime that stones women for wanting a divorce (Afghanistan) can believe that they are doing something good.
Masquenox is a troll. Don't take their bait.
After reviewing their comment history, I think Masquenox has strong controversial opinions and a bellicose attitude, but is not a troll.
Thanks. Now I have to go ask the duck what "bellicose" means...
It means you're looking for a fight, which usually involves bouncers and shit.
This take just baffles me… you can disapprove of a war, and still respect people willing to put their life on the line for something they believe is right.
A Toast to the Troops... All the troops. Both Sides.
You can respect someone for sacrificing themselves without agreeing with them about what they’re sacrificing themselves for.
RIP to Sgt. Rufus "Baby Ears" McGuffin. He died doing what he loved. Ripping the ears of babies and putting them on a big necklace that he would wear around camp.
He died doing what he loved. Ripping the ears of babies and putting them on a big necklace that he would wear around camp.
Just another "All American Hero," eh?
"All the troops, both sides" is half my point when pointing out that enemy combatants historically have often held respect for each other.
Yes, I respect a combatant fighting for something they believe in that's bigger than themselves, people not fighting for personal gain, but because they want to give someone else a better life. That's regardless of what side they're on- even if they're on the side I'm actively trying to kill.
enemy combatants historically have often held respect for each other.
Torturing POWs to death as a form of respect
The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.
I mean, he's right...
Trump would fill his pants if he was ever in any kind of war zone. But you know that’ll never happen because he’s a coward.
Invading other countries is not really a feat to be proud of though