Lemmmygrad supposedly is for people who support communism, but when talking to them, they really are supporting totalitarian countries which have nothing to do with communism.

I understand that they are staunchly pro-communist and also take a pro-Palestine, including some of them (many of them?) a more clearly pro-Hamas stance. And that all of this could annoy many of the centrist liberals that seem to dominate here. But from perusing the lemmygrad link I do not see clear signs of hate speech, certainly not a clear hate speech agenda as you would see with some hate groups. And judging by the comments on here many seem to be happy to be “rid of them” because they are “annoying”, or “immature”, or “tankies”, or whatever. It really reads largely like “their opinions annoy me” so I’m glad they’re gone.

There may be more to it, I don’t know, but personally I wouldn’t like lemmy.world, an otherwise fine instance by all means, to become a centrist liberal silo where no other opinion outside (mostly US-centric) liberal orthodoxy is heard. So yeah, not convinced that this was the right decision, basically because of a lack of evidence.

Before I saw lemmygrad: wtf are we doing?

After I saw lemmygrad: glad we defederate..

I fully support this. I don't think instances that breed hate and radicalization should be allowed an audience.

I have seen so much propoganda, hate, and lunacy from that instance since I joined Lemmy.

Free Palestine

I love how these posts always end up descending into a tankie bad circle jerk instead of asking for examples of hate speech.

BTW op, any examples of hate speech?

This type of censorship never stops. There's no doubt in my mind as this trend continues we're going to see other taboo communities like piracy, not mainstream accepted politics, etc. ones being banned and their servers defederated.

We've already seen admins of this server removing comments and banning people for posting stuff they don't agree with. I don't see how Lemmy can succeed when we're not even at like 2.5k users per day on the biggest server and the admins here are already going extreme on the censorship.

I do wonder why we didn't defederate from them long ago, it's not like they recently started showing signs of who and what they really are, they've been very transparent about their motives since day 1. Still though good it was done now before they started spamming things here (not sure if they do that or if it's just hexbear that spams).

It would be good practice if admins would link a selection of the offensive material. That would allow both sides to debate how they judge such behavior.

Right now there are celebrating comments but I haven't seen bad behavior myself, even in heated debates. That let's me assume that many are thin skinned or unable to refute lemmygrad's political opinion.

If I understand lemmy correctly then banning lemmygrad will prevent its users from participating in any debate on a lemmy. world community. Does a lemmy instance exist that federated with everybody where important communities should be hosted?

I just gotta say, the moderation here makes me so happy I joined this instance.

Will it make a return once we gain the ability to block individual instances? I'm not fan of communism and I'm personally stoked to not have lemmygrad in my feed. And I think you made the right choice given the current state of Lemmy but I do think that a "free speech" forum requires that we don't silence hate speech en masse. I'm sure can agree to at least part of that statement. I just like to make the decision of what I wanted filtered out.

I should probably add that I'm not advocating for any illegal content. That has no place here.

That's a bummer. I'm a serious Capitalist but I kinda liked the Tankies and Pinks, they brought a fresh perspective and occasionally produced damn good memes.

The good news is that since I moved to another instance I'll still get their stuff, kinda stinks for those of you homed on lemmy.world though.

I think this is for the best, there are some seriously disturbed people posting on Lemmygrad. I saw comments cheering on and celebrating the Hamas attack and talking about how they hoped the people who were kidnapped get tortured. Whatever your politics, that is super fucked up and not "legitimate discourse".

I was banned from Lemmy.world for a week after criticizing Israel. The pinned post accuses this server of supporting the Zionist genocide of Palestinians. Should I go ahead and close my account now? Is this a Zionst platform?

Edit: I know that this server loves to mass downvote any post that questions authority, but it would be much more helpful if you would verbally confirm that you support genocide, or at least start abusing me personally to let me know you think I don't belong.

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