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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Big Dipper is a very small part of the great bear.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also those other parts are a lot more visible when there's no light pollution like 2500 years ago.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those extra stars don't really make it more bear looking.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Than just these seven? They absolutely do.

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Looks more like a drunk person drawing a stick horse to me

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago

Where the fuck were you 2500 years ago? We could of had some kick-ass names and backstories for our night sky.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

How many long tailed bears were around in Ancient Greece? I saw a backwards interpretation that made more sense where the tail becomes the eye of the head.

Here's an actual photo of the night sky with all the minor stars. There's nothing there that even squinting gives the appearance of a bear.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 11 points 10 months ago
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's funny is it very clearly see a bear there.

Not sure if I'd be able to make it out in person, but the image makes it so very clear to me.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What? That's clearly a giraffe

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It's a schooner.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The bear name for those stars predates the ancient Greeks.

There's no known origin. It's present in languages of people that were separated at least 13000 years ago.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

some of our star stories go back 100k years. see: the Pleiades.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

This user knows how to star-party!

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

The Medium Saucepan is my favorite constellation.

[–] SnekZone@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it's the karlavagn (the Karl wagon/cart)

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 10 months ago

the man wagon

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 22 points 10 months ago (4 children)
[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago

If you look at it without tons of light and air pollution, as the ancient Greeks would have, there are so many stars you can make a constellation look like anything you want.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yup. While the bear with a tail is still kind of weird, Ursa major is one of the least weird constellations. "The Big Dipper" is an "asterism" according to the grad students at the planetarium I took my daughter to.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also it at least used to be identified as a medieval push hoe.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Isn't it also known as "The Plow" in some parts?

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still don't see a bear. Which way is it facing?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 10 months ago

To the right. Muscida is its nose.

The tail is a bit long and it's missing an arm.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

bear lore from Björn

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Norse people: it's a wagon! It's Odin's Wagon!

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Or that of Karl, whomever the fuck that is 🤷

(It's called Karlsvognen here in Denmark, which means Karl's wagon)

[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Same in Swedish, Karlavagnen ("the Karl wagon")

But its definitely a wagon, like who would think it's a bear?

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They didn't think the big dipper was the bear. The bear is much bigger than the dipper alone.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Greek dudes who have had a shitload of retsina? 🤷

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Karl@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, it's a bear's dih

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

More like em-bear-assing yourself while deep in the Retsina..

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I don't know my northern hemisphere stars, having never seen any, but that looks exactly like what we call "the pot" down in the southern hemisphere.

Your point still stands, but your example couldn't be shooting yourself in the foot any harder

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I've always seen it as a kite

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That would be the rump and tail of the bear.