HOAs should be treated exactly the same as landlords.
Hanged. From the nearest street light.
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HOAs should be treated exactly the same as landlords.
Hanged. From the nearest street light.
I found an update about the vote to remove the three board members.
Homeowners voted 190 to 20 in favour of removal, however the board cancelled the vote claiming there wasn't a 24 hour notice given to the community and subsequently that 210 votes might not qualify a quorum of more than a thousand homes.
Those kinds of shenanigans get HOAs nullified by court order.
Donald stated you’ll never have to vote again… retards cheered. This is how it will start.
Oh, that will go well. Piss off people and make their vote not count. The people that know where you live and can see your front door...
Well that sucks. I don't know what their rules are, but having dealt with shitty HOA's, if all the rules of the agreement were followed and you get their attorneys involved, their attorneys in most cases will tell those dickheads knock it off if the agreement was followed. This sounds like a violation on the HOA's part of the agreement but again, I don't know how it's written. I do know if an update was pushed every single resident shall have received the update for it be valid and they shall have a copy of the agreement ready upon request. I hate shitty HOA's. Good luck to them.
How anyone that lives in a country that has HOAs can unironically call it "land of the free" is beyond me
Some HOAs can be quite nice as they're just there to add some basic community rules. However, many are hijacked by a handful of narcissistic individuals who let this insignificant amount of power go to their heads and they turn into a bunch Mussolinis
Having served on the board of my building, you see what slobs and mindless people you share the planet with. Letting their pets piss in the hallway. It gets cleaned by staff, right? What's the problem? Compost stinks, leave the bin in the hallway! Doesn't matter as long as I don't smell it, right?
That's the thing, the sheer amount of imbeciles who occupy these units make you question how society got to this point.
"ProPTeRy VaLUes!"
No one sees any value in just living in their homes. They have to be statements on your personal wealth, and though that, statements on your character as a human being. Living under the thumb of narcissists is a small price to pay so your neighbor doesn't look poor.
What do you think a city or state is? Gotta have rules, good luck living in a neighborhood without a HOA when the fat shirtless guy next door turns his front lawn into an open air trash heap.
My city has bylaws for that sort of thing. I can't let my grass turn into a jungle either. That's also a bylaw. Shoveling snow into the street? Guess what, bylaw.
Don't need an HOA full of overbearing Karen's to Lord over me about what color I painted my garage on top of the fairly loose bylaws that I also need to abide by.
At least with bylaws they're enforced by public workers, not Karen from next door.
You guys are wrong. The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don't care about your property. That's what the HOA is for.
You can't leave your trash on the sidewalk (city property) randomly, the city can't do jack shit if some slob leaves his trash on his lawn.
Until rats set in. You guys comfortable leaving things degenerate to that level until the city acts?
This is straight up not true in many places. Where I live they have a long list of things you can't have in your yard, or in your yard for extended periods of time. They have a list of rules for the flora, maintenance, etc.
The only time your assumption is true is the inside of the house. They can't do much there until it is a fire hazard, bio hazard, etc. , but that level of hoarding stuff is not common, and even then, there are limits to it before the city intervenes
I just picked a random US city out of thin air.
If they're that concerned about how tall your grass is, I imagine they'll also get involved if you let trash pile up.
That's my point. They'll do something when it's three feet tall, but maybe I want the neighbor to cut it before it reaches that level?
That’s my point.
No, that wasn't your point. Now you're moving the goal post. Your point was, and I quote,
The city handles what overflows onto ITS property, they don’t care about your property.
Plus, the article explicitly states that the ordinance specifies 12 inches, not three feet.
You can keep digging your hole deeper, but it's not going to support your claim. Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they're wrong.
They don't care about your property, right. No one wants 12 inch grass.
It is you who is wrong. The HOAs exist to make people respect human living conditions, not the contractor-grade specs the city enforces for its purposes.
Try to picture a city with just the city rules enforced. All right, it's 1 foot tall grass, not three feet. OK, it's three trash bags with rats, not 12.
That enough? Of course it isn't.
The grass matters to the city when it overflows onto its property. One hopes that in the vast majority of cases, people will maintain their property a bit better on their own. The HOA just makes it possible to ensure that. The vast majority of HOAs aren't PITAs, only the extreme stories make it to the news.
If you like your lawn 1 foot tall with trash bags everywhere, move to where there is no HOA. I realize there are fewer and fewer trailer parks these days, but that's not my fault.
I don't know how to put it simpler.
" Your just wrong here, and one sign of a well adjusted adult is knowing when to admit they’re wrong."
It's "you're", and I'm not, and take your own advice.
turns his front lawn into an open air trash heap
The town/city is suppose to handle that.
Only at a certain point. Maybe I want it handled before?
That's my next door neighbour!
Sorry, I'll wear a shirt next time.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Cities make people crazy.
Lol you sheltered as hell, most of these hoas exist outside of cities in suburbs, where people like you live watching fox news, getting paranoid and angry over imaginary threats
That is the truth. The bigger, the denser, the crazier. It's some kind of emergent feedback effect. Like a mass of uranium.
Of course the city dwellers will protest that assertion.
Cities? Money. HOAs are designed to keep the poors out, and by poors they mean other colored people.
HOAs are full of crazies.
Cities are usually fine..... Not all cities though.
Doesn't really have anything to do with location. There are nutters and busy bodies everywhere. Most of the non city people voted for the president and representatives that are destroying the usa.
The good news is he read the HOA agreement, initiated a special meeting through signatures, and now the neighborhood is holding a special election to remove the dickhead board members.
And the update is… fuck off, 210 votes is not counted for. Someone updated the comments
Dammit! Thank you for the update.
Thank you, comment that summarises what's in the article, I was afraid I might have to read the article to get the full picture.