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Israel’s war in Gaza is chipping away at so much of what we – in the United States but also internationally – had agreed upon as acceptable, from the rules governing our freedom of speech to the very laws of armed conflict. It seems no exaggeration to say that the foundation of the international order of the last 77 years is threatened by this change in the obligations governing our legal and political responsibilities to each other.

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Such a shame that doing anything about it, including asking nicely, would be rabidly antisemitic.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Late stage capitalism is killing the world

[–] razen@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

When are we going to talk about African wars?

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

When the US starts being the primary funder of them.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

There isn’t any difference between American arms and israeli arms

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's actually China and Russia who's funding them currently.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

China and Russia are funding the anti “resistance“. It’s just a proxy war. Same exact thing the Afghanistan war was about

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

The genocide in Sudan is funded by the UAE which is an American proxy and best friends with Israel.

[–] known_unknown@lemmy.world 192 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

The Jewish people of the world deserve apology from the government of isreal for using their suffering as a political tool in service of genocide.

In conflating politics and imperialism with lineage and race, the political movement of Zionism sows incalculable hatred into the world in the name of Judaism, so that they can reap it later, when Jewish people suffer as meat shields, as justification for expansionism, and forever-war. Down with this theocratic shell game.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 74 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

As someone who is a Jewish refugee in the US, there are more than enough Jewish folks in Israel and around the US who are completely fine with what the government of Israel is doing. They should not be let off the hook. I say this fully realizing that the pro Palestinian sentiment has a large Jewish constituency in the US. So it’s not to paint with a broad brush. But people living in Israel are almost 3/4 in support of what is happening and the only protests in that country were from people who wanted to rescue the hostages but were fully on board with the horrors the country is committing in the name of Jews around the world. The conflation of a religion with an ethnicity will end up making us less safe.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

That's not because they're Jewish, though, it's because they've let their ego and pride overcome their empathy for their fellow human beings.

There's plenty of non-Jewish people who are also perfectly happy to profit off the suffering of Palestinians.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

My pro-palestinian praxis is making sure my Jewish neighbours have no reason to even think about aliyah. Jewish safety? It's here. Reverse doikayt.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 99 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Zionism is a destructive toxic ideology of fascistic bloodlust and racial supremacy. It is the true descendent of Nazi ideology.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 34 points 16 hours ago (27 children)

Given that the Zionist movement was founded decades before the Nazi movement, I would say Nazis are the descendants.

Well, 19th century zionism was a different thing. Optionally but not necessarily evil. Sometimes it was as benign as 'lets all go somewhere and join a community together ajd bring the ways that we're cool to that community and even if they dont totally like us, they can't hate us more than these assholes'.

So it is fair to say that the idea of zionism that 'won', the genocidal theocratic ethnostate, is at least to some extent based on both the nazis, and some of the same esoteric bs the nazis were into.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 41 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

More accurately, they’re both separate descendants of ethnonationalism which was a popular ideology at that time. And still today, evidently, though it seemed to be in decline for a bit during the post-war period.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

the Mayans missed it by like ... 15 years

no they were spot on. it just takes a while for the change to take effect in the outside world.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

Is it? I don't even hear anything out of the Arab states. It should but I don't see much.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago

Because America successfully turned most of the Middle East into US puppet states. There's a reason most of the region is ruled by autocratic regimes. The only Arabic-speaking country whose government is materially opposed to Israel now is Yemen.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 32 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

The split is between governments and the general public. I don't know too many individuals who are ok with what is going on. And if they are, they are being awfully quiet about it.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 17 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

You should go and read some daily mail comments on articles about the war (genocide). They're a bunch of frothing murderous horrors.

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[–] madlian@lemmy.cafe 18 points 15 hours ago

The people who are okay with it are the ones who hate the Muslims. Which is a shockingly large number of people and governments.

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