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[–] Googlies@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (31 children)

Israel is allowed to literally cause a holocaust on the Palestinian people for the last 70+ years, backed by seemingly the majority of the political landscape and the population. Israelis chanting death to entire ethnicities but nooooo we can't say anything that might hurt their poor lil feelings. Bunch of bollocks. You lot are a bunch of clowns that are entirely too comfortable with the deaths of brown people.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

literally cause a holocaust on the Palestinian people for the last 70+ years

Either you don't know what happened during the Holocaust, or you don't know what happens to Palestinians. These are in not the same, very far from it.

This is Holocaust relativism, bordering on denial.

That said. Palestinians are oppressed and deserve better. Your antisemitic incitement does not help them.

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fuck zionists, but they aren't evil because they are Jewish, they are evil because their are zionists.

that's like saying fuck white people because there majority of Israelis are white.

and so many loud antizionist voices are Jewish.

if you conflate the two (what Israel wants) you just feed into the Israeli narrative that we all hate the jews and they can only be safe in apartheid genocidal Israel.

which is BS.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get the sentiment and I'd agree, but it would be so much easier if not over half the Israeli population is now supporting a genocide. You think they know better, of all people

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, Israeli public opinion is not helping any moral or sane cause. But that's still no reason for those few human beings on this planet who are still sane to embrace racism.

[–] febra@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

While it is a lunatic statement, it isn't antisemitic. It's only antisemitic if it applies to jewish Palestinians that have a connection to the land. The jewish Israelis of European descent aren't connected to the land. Thus, this isn't antisemitic. But I do agree that it is a lunatic statement anyway.

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[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Shit can I get expelled back to Britain? They got their own problems but fuck, my family is in the domesday book, can I go back?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Yeah, I don’t know how to solve the issues of two separate families feeling ownership for the same location (fifty years ago, a Palestinian family including several living members was evicted from a home, and an Israeli couple moved in and then died, leaving their property to their children who played no role in taking the property from the Palestinians), but the solution is not to deport all of the Israelis from the region.

My first instinct would be that the government would need to build a LOT of desirable housing and offer a cash incentive to all current and former residents to cede ownership claims to other properties in exchange for the deed to one of the newer properties, but it immediately occurs to me that the wealth difference between the average Palestinian family and the average Israeli family is probably large enough that there would essentially be a self-selection bias. Especially given the fact that poverty and food insecurity reduce our ability to make good financial decisions.

I can’t think of a resolution for that situation that doesn’t involve someone feeling resentful. I’m not saying they have equal claim- but I know that the descendants of settlers are also people, who don’t want to be evicted from the (stolen) houses in which they were raised, and sowing resentment has not helped the region in the past.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, eminent domain exists for this reason, but generally, compensation for stolen property is the norm because of the difficulty of dealing with inheritances and the like several steps removed from the original crime.

Recognizing the validity of residency is not the same as recognizing privilege. "You can stay under the same criteria as anyone else, because we aren't here to engage in ethnic cleansing" and "Your property is sacrosanct and cannot be touched under any circumstances" are two different concepts, after all.

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[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Though I see few anti-semitic remarks, other than the ones about Palestinians.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Thanks to Netanyahu and his goonies (such as Trump and Starmer) the word anti-semitist has lost all meaning.

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