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[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 45 minutes ago

Nuance and subtlety? Not on my lemmy!

[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

It's my understanding that it is occurring naturally on its own, anyways?

A few reporting I've heard on Israel describes a state filled with dual-citizenship inhabitants that are used to first-world standard and would rather leave the country than deal with inconveniences. I oversimplify here, but who really wants to live in a genocidal state? Whether you're on board or not with the genocide, it's still a massive point of friction with neighbors.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

There's a significant issue of younger Israelis emigrating from Israel due to that friction, though I don't know the exact numbers.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

*It's ok to hate Israel

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Unfortunately, the term "antisemitic" no longer has any kind of fixed meaning. I wish that weren't true, and I think it's a combination of forces that decided to misuse the word for several decades, that have now led to it being meaningless.

And you might be tempted to tell me what you think it means, and maybe I could agree with you, but when I turn on the TV tomorrow someone else will be using it in a totally different way that's inconsistent. Actually I'm kidding. I don't have a TV.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Jewish people and groups around the world need to issue strong rejection of Israel's actions.

If they don't, i'm very concerned that Israel's crimes will fall back on them in the future.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 hours ago

Condemnation of Israel's actions won't protect Jews around the world.

[–] febra@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

While it is a lunatic statement, it isn't antisemitic. It's only antisemitic if it applies to jewish Palestinians that have a connection to the land. The jewish Israelis of European descent aren't connected to the land. Thus, this isn't antisemitic. But I do agree that it is a lunatic statement anyway.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

While it is a lunatic statement, it isn’t antisemitic. It’s only antisemitic if it applies to jewish Palestinians that have a connection to the land. The jewish Israelis of European descent aren’t connected to the land. Thus, this isn’t antisemitic. But I do agree that it is a lunatic statement anyway.

Oh my fucking God, when did leftism become Blut und Boden nationalism?

[–] sknob@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So many people on the left for whom jew = Zionist = fascist Israeli. It plays right in the hand of all the actual right-wingers and fascists supporting Israel. Appalling and stupid.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that the stance of Israel as well? They claim to be the representatives of all jewish people.

[–] sknob@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

So lefties should align their position on the fascist government of Israel ? 🤔

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Oh we out here making friends in these comment sections today.

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Hating on the Israeli government is bound to attract "the other group who has similar things to say and a bit more". Now suddenly we are all group into the anti-semite barrel by Israel. Master class false dichotomy there.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I have a solution: we force the region to start respecting human rights or we start incarcerating offenders. We don't need to build a bunch of condos for the palestinians, we don't need to give them lawyers or outsource their legal disputes, we don't need to help either side militarize against the other: we just need to hold them to a bare minimum standard by force and they'll sort the shit out in a few decades.

This is what the ICJ was made for. These are the rules we all agreed to play by after WWII. They fucked around, it should be the right of anybody and everyone who wants to interfere to go in and make them find out.

BTW human rights should include not being segregated into walled off districts.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I have a solution: we force the region to start respecting human rights or we start incarcerating offenders.

How?

Are we going to invade?

Or is it more likely that it ends up a North Korea situation where those who are in charge of such atrocities just don't go to countries that will arrest them?

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Problem is who gave us right to force people in the other side of the world to do this?

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But do the Israelis WANT to integrate though ?

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