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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I mean sure. Don't me a racist bigot. Of course.

But let's not pretend that religion isn't fueling the atrocities being committed on both sides of the conflict.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

This is what I said and then someone blew up in my face about it when I said this in another thread/post. Why are people so hard headed when it comes to accepting reality I wonder.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 39 minutes ago

If it wasn't religion it would be race or ideology or language or eye color. You could press a button and eliminate religion from history and all of these problems would still exist.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!

[–] confluence@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Israel is the most anti-Jewish state since Nazi Germany, and Palestinians are semitic.

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

*It's ok to hate Israel

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 hours ago

Unfortunately, the term "antisemitic" no longer has any kind of fixed meaning. I wish that weren't true, and I think it's a combination of forces that decided to misuse the word for several decades, that have now led to it being meaningless.

And you might be tempted to tell me what you think it means, and maybe I could agree with you, but when I turn on the TV tomorrow someone else will be using it in a totally different way that's inconsistent. Actually I'm kidding. I don't have a TV.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Jewish people and groups around the world need to issue strong rejection of Israel's actions.

If they don't, i'm very concerned that Israel's crimes will fall back on them in the future.

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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

It's my understanding that it is occurring naturally on its own, anyways?

A few reporting I've heard on Israel describes a state filled with dual-citizenship inhabitants that are used to first-world standard and would rather leave the country than deal with inconveniences. I oversimplify here, but who really wants to live in a genocidal state? Whether you're on board or not with the genocide, it's still a massive point of friction with neighbors.

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[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 10 hours ago

Nuance and subtlety? Not on my lemmy!

[–] sknob@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

So many people on the left for whom jew = Zionist = fascist Israeli. It plays right in the hand of all the actual right-wingers and fascists supporting Israel. Appalling and stupid.

[–] Googlies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Where are these phantom lefties that think of Jewish = Zionist. Stop making shit up.

Most reasonable people out there know that being Jewish =\ zionists. There are plenty of Jewish people out there that are against Israel. It's the Israeli government that has tried their best to conflate the two in order to protect their own murderous regime.

[–] febra@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't that the stance of Israel as well? They claim to be the representatives of all jewish people.

[–] sknob@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So lefties should align their position on the fascist government of Israel ? 🤔

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's why literally nobody on the left does this. A common and reasonable refrain is that it's anti-semitic to conflate judaism and zionism.

These imaginary jew=zionist leftists are just a lib fever dream. Zio delusions.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Should nazis have been integrated into post-ww2 solution?

Zionism is similarly a genocidal fascist ideology. If these colonizers can't handle freedom, democracy, equality, etc., then they should definitely return to their actual homes. That's extremely generous. I don't know what else you would expect.

Libs running cover for zios is just another example of how liberalism supports fascism. And this actively contributes to anti-semitism.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Should nazis have been integrated into post-ww2 solution?

... fucking what

Is this some Morgenthau Plan insanity that I'm not genocidal enough to understand?

If these colonizers can’t handle freedom, democracy, equality, etc., then they should definitely return to their actual homes.

Oh, great, more 'Go back where you came from!' racism. Blut und boden. It seems the only thing that separates you from literal fucking Nazis is what team colors you wear.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Do you think nazis should have stayed in poland and become part of the one-state government? Why or why not?

I'm talking about nazis, not ethnically german poles. Can you understand the difference?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m talking about nazis, not ethnically german poles. Can you understand the difference?

Considering that you came in on a post saying that Israelis should be integrated into a one-state solution, and asking people not to be antisemitic?

I'm not sure that you understand the difference. Or much of anything, for that matter.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's part of why the post is bullshit. It's the flattening of a culture without any nuance. It's conflating anti-zionism with anti-semitism. That's why it's anti-semitic.

I can easily tell the difference between a fascist and regular person. I know a few israelis. The zios are brainwashed racist creeps. Those who resist are probably better people than me, refugees who've had to flee zio death threats and prison.

Keep dodging the question tho. You gonna put those nazis in the polish government or what?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s part of why the post is bullshit.

The post is bullshit because... you're incapable of differentiating between individuals of a particular ethnicity and political allegiance to fascist and genocidal movements?

What?

I can easily tell the difference between a fascist and regular person. I know a few israelis. The zios are racist creeps. Those who resist are brave refugees who’ve had to flee zio death threats and prison.

Are you... talking to yourself right now or something? What does this have to do with the topic?

Keep dodging the question tho.

"Israelis should be integrated into a one-state solution instead of a racist Zionist state. Please don't peddle antisemitic claptrap about sending them 'back where they came from' because their parents, grandparents, or great-grandparents came from Europe. That's insanely racist."

"OH, so you would allow the NAZIS to be part of POLAND'S government???"

I'm beginning to think you're suffering from a legitimate mental illness, because you very consistently start with these bizarre tangents and get weirder and less relevant with each comment.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you… talking to yourself right now or something? What does this have to do with the topic?

I'm explaining the difference between a nazi and someone who resists. Apparently you can't understand this.

“OH, so you would allow the NAZIS to be part of POLAND’S government???”

So no. You're not. You must be racist against german people?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Stop supporting fascism and promoting genocide.

[–] Googlies@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

No point explaining things to the pug, he's far too up his own righteous butt to understand what's happening in the world. He's convinced that all people everywhere are exactly like Israelies, wanting to genocide everyone. Projection to the max

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