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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We've tried a 1 state solution for a long time

It's probably time to start aknowledging the goal of Zionism is to take land from others, and aknowledge that the Zionist have too much influence in politics.

It's either the Zionists go, or we just have to accept that Isreal wants to behave like a fascist colonizer and cut ties

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It’s either the Zionists go, or we just have to accept that Isreal wants to behave like a fascist colonizer and cut ties

Cutting ties isn't advocating genocide against Israelis though.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If we look at the modern history of the reigon, the Zionist have been the agressors since NATO made the choice to just give the Palestinians' land to the Zionists, because the Zionists wanted the land and had an excuse/sympathy after WW2.

There hasn't been a political party in Isreal capable of being peaceful and fair with their neighbors.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

If we look at the modern history of the reigon, the Zionist have been the agressors since NATO made the choice to just give the Palestinians’ land to the Zionists, because the Zionists wanted the land and had an excuse/sympathy after WW2.

NATO wasn't founded until over a year after Israel was. Soviet aid, in fact, was instrumental in saving Israel after it was founded in '48.

There hasn’t been a political party in Isreal capable of being peaceful and fair with their neighbors.

Okay? That still doesn't justify genocide?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to be pedantic about what NATO was called when the same members were just the allied forces then idk if we can talk about this in good faith.

Okay? That still doesn't justify genocide?

Jews are not being currently genocided, Zionists are currently genociding Palestinians. So I feel like that's what is most valid to focus on.

It seems like most of the "antisemitism" that appeared out of nowhere in the last couple months is just a renewal of an IDF troll campaign. The warmongering Zionists get their trolls to beat the "antisemitism" gong whenever they are starting to look bad in the press.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to be pedantic about what NATO was called when the same members were just the allied forces then idk if we can talk about this in good faith.

... Jesus fucking Christ.

Israel was not 'given land' by 'the allied forces'.

It seems like most of the “antisemitism” that appeared out of nowhere in the last couple months is just a renewal of an IDF troll campaign.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It was the allies who gave the land to the Zionists.

The Haavara Agreement ... enabled Jews fleeing persecution under the new Nazi regime to transfer some portion of their assets to British Mandatory Palestine.[2] Emigrants sold their assets in Germany to pay for essential goods (manufactured in Germany) to be shipped to Mandatory Palestine.[3][4] The agreement was controversial and was criticised by Revisionist Zionist leader Ze'ev Jabotinsky and by some non-Zionist Jews, as well as by members of both the Nazi Party and the German public.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

We can see the landgrab was even unpopular with non-Zionist jews at the time.

Dude you gotta chill. Palestinians are being erased, and Jews are not. It's really as simple as that.

Supporting Zionists does not help Jews. And pretending any antisemitism happening against Zionists is as bad as the erasure of the Palestinian people is intentionally ignoring the ongoing atrocities to clutch pearls.

Zionists and Isralis don't get sympathy from me while committing the worst war crime possible.

[–] Snowies@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should European-Americans all “just relocate” since we occupied North America from the Native Americans?

Otherwise I don’t see how you’re any different than the Israelites.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well one happened in living memory and people are still living in the houses of displaced people in Palestine.

This isn't just about land. This about homes, farms, legacies, birthright, inheritances that have been stolen by living people from living people. Not a vague concept of belonging.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well one happened in living memory

Then we just wait another 30 years and it's okay.

Settler-colonialism in the continental US didn't end until 1953. Israel was founded in 1948.

people are still living in the houses of displaced people

Millions of people were displaced in Europe and other places of the world during the 1940s, who never got to go back and claim their lost property. 900,000 Jews had to leave Middle Eastern countries in the 1940s and 50s and often lost their property over the course of that.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Congratz you're starting to learn how it's problematic to deport people who were born in the reigon.