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[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Fuck you, government. I do not respect your existence, and day by day, am losing respect for the laws you demand we follow. Fuck your rules.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Always have been a police state, anti terrorism laws are ALWAYS used to silence 'dissident' voices

From 5 July 2025, it is an offence under the UK's Terrorism Act 2000 to be a member of Palestine Action,[7] fundraise for it,[8][9] wear or display items arousing reasonable suspicion of membership,[10] or if someone invites support or even "expresses an opinion or belief supportive of" Palestine Action "reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support" it.[11] These offences carry a maximum penalty of up to 14 years in prison for membership or inviting support, and up to 6 months in prison or a fine for displaying supporting items.[7][10][11][9]

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is Palestine Action a specific movement/group or is palestine Action literally just supporting Palestine? Asking from a non UK perspective.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's a specific group that recently broke into an RAF base and started mucking about with the aircraft, hence why the government aren't their biggest fans.

Shortly after they did this they were designated as a terrorist group by the home office which is why public support is an offence.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Their latest action was against the planes, but they have actually been extraordinarily successful at damaging the economic machine behind the genocide through targeted and sustained sabotage campaigns against Elbit Systems weapons manufacturer and their supporters, like Barclays Bank. They have already forced the closure of two weapons factories and forced Barclays to divest. It is most likely this sustained campaign that is the real reason for the terrorist designation, though the action at Brize Norton was probably the straw that broke the camel’s back.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Are the protestors with signs saying they support palestinian action intending to state that they support the group or that they support action generally?

Either way they've manufactured this issue to protest anti-terrorism laws right?

Not sure if would die on this hill.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Ah, so it's the old "pay our people to do something 'terrible/highly controversial' in the name of our 'enemy/opposing group' so that we can discredit them and their cause and apprehend any of them"-rule

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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's a specific group that was proscribed after breaking into RAF Brize Norton and vandalizing tankers.

[–] shiturdgensider@lemmings.world -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

They threw red paint.

The UK army is complicit in a genocide and deserve to have their planes blown up.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 5 points 1 day ago

It uses Direct Action which are methods that governments tend to associate with terrorism

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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As American, I’m always so glad to see our cousins across the water follow our inane footsteps. Cheers Brits!

[–] ewo@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago

Atleast we're in solidarity about being fucked off

Cross Atlantic solidarity against fascism 🤝

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Brexit? They were first.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Let's hope the UK citizens prove less cowardly than the US ones.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 93 points 1 day ago (4 children)

You have a lot of trust in people who voted to isolate themselves from their biggest allies and trading partners just a couple years ago.

[–] match@pawb.social 20 points 1 day ago

took me a minute before i realized the US only did that months ago instead of years

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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

X to doubt. The UK threw out due process a long time ago, wave the ‘terrorism’ tag and egregiously Orwellian policies become law:

  • Legalized warrantless arrest and imprisonment of suspects without trial or warrant for 28 days
  • Permits freezing of a suspects assets without trial
  • Allows unlimited imprisonment of foreigners suspected of terrorism without trial
  • Military police permitted to operate on UK soil openly, even for non terrorism reasons
  • TPIM orders without trial that permits electronic tagging, travel bans, limited house arrest, curfews and constant monitoring.

And all that’s before we even talk about the recent Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act nonsense.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 23 hours ago

The PAC are heroes. We should be building statues of them. No one a hundred years from now will think Labor is on the right side of history here. We should be nominating these people for sainthood, not criminalizing them.

[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago

Drawing attention to the abuse of these powers is now terrorism. Please hand yourself in to your nearest police station for reeducation.

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[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they were trying to use this sort of rule with wholesome intentions, I'm not sure how targeting groups by name instead of deed makes sense. It's like doing a healthy diet by giving up Coca-Cola by name even though Pepsi and RC have the same nutritional profile and availability. Enjoy the Whack-a-mole game!

Taken to its logical conclusion, someone should start a pro-Palestinian squad and call it the Reform Party.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The group in question broke onto an airbase and put a couple of RAF planes out of action. They crossed a red line for the government.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh boy wait till you hear what the suffragettes were willing to do for another righteous cause, a bit over a century ago. I don't know man, maybe the government should start reexamining its policies if ordinary people among its citizens are willing to start breaking into airbase and damaging their own planes.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

They were willing to commit mass murder in London and Dublin, and to assassinate the Prime Minister. Also deeply keen on removing all Jews from the House of Commons. Things that today would indeed mark them as a terrorist organisation.

Later, Emmeline Pankhurst would found a political party with the aim of requiring all civil servants to prove their racial purity back at least 3 generations, and many of the more prominent members of the WSPU became prominent members of the British fascist movement, several being detained as a precaution during the second European fuss.

As a campaign, the WSPU was an abject failure. It put women’s votes back a decade, and Pankhurst failed to ensure that working class women were excluded from the franchise (she also wanted working class men excluded).

It was only a cataclysm the scale of WWI, and the groundwork of the suffragists working in opposition to the suffragettes, which brought votes for all.

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[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 21 hours ago (6 children)
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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

US does police state better.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

US is Judge Dredd.

UK is 1984.

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[–] clockworkrat@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago

Does it different. In the US the violence is more up front. Here it's done through mechanisms of the state.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i bet my police state could beat up your police state

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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 13 points 1 day ago (11 children)
[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

In Germany we are at a point where it's difficult to identity antisemitism became everyone who doesn't actively support the genocide in Gaza is called an antisemite

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Some Aussie comedian on KGB News has just said that the disabled should be shot or starved into work …but a few people holding signs is the problem. How baffling.

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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The Brits need to make like the French and lop heads off until they have something resembling a functional democracy.

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