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Translation: "A black man is familiar with freedom in America. Here it is, uncle Tom's cabin."

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 10 points 18 hours ago

And if MAGA has their way, the other half will be shot.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Republicans: The other half are guilty of something, we just haven’t got to them yet.

[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The takeaway here should be that poverty creates crime.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 14 points 18 hours ago

It's always been an absolute and complete source of bafflement to me how many people don't seem to get this. I'm a (relatively) high earner and have no hesitation voting for the most left wing candidate on the ballot, because I think it represents good value to pay a few extra percent in tax to not have to be scared walking down the street or to keep checking my home security cameras. What's the point having wealth if I'm constantly having to protect it?

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

and that systemic racism, ie deliberate policies, maintain the status quo and keep black and non white communities poor, and even some white communities are kept poor.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

they need poor whites, so they can drum up racism, and and have solid voter base, also useful cannon fodder for LEO and MAYBE the military.

[–] rowrowrowyourboat@sh.itjust.works 151 points 1 day ago (13 children)

By age 23, 49 percent of black males, 44 percent of Hispanic males and 38 percent of white males have been arrested.

https://www.albany.edu/news/45558.php

[–] PacMan@sh.itjust.works 1 points 49 minutes ago

Thank you providing an actual source!

This title is like some boomer FaceBook shit other wise. That would normally be the minority’s are taking our jobs; shit..:

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago

America bad

unironically

[–] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Maybe we just arrest people and throw them in jail way too fucking much. Land of the imprisoned, home of the DA

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I called 911 as the victim of DV, they came and arrested both of us. The system is so broken.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

they need the statistics to pad the numbers for thier budget probably.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

Jesus fucking shit thats horrifying

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 day ago (5 children)

All of those sound insanely high. If you take a group of 10 random adult men from the US, roughly four of them have been arrested?

Is a lot of it for underage drinking because that law is so far from lived reality?

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Roughly four by age 23. If you consider all the male population, the numbers would probably be considerably higher. It's indeed hard to believe...

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I got arrested as a kid for skipping school! I was being sexually assaulted in the school bathroom and was terrified of leaving the house, but obviously the way to solve that was cuffing me and throwing me in juvie.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Wow that's fucked. In my country the kids going to school is the parents legal responsibility, they can actually get fined if the child is delinquent. But never would the child be arrested.

I'm very sorry that happened to you, both the sexual assault and the police treatment.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Roughly 25% of the country will be arrested, or put on probation at least once in their lives. That's been a steady statistic since the early '90s when Clinton signed his crime bill.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 22 hours ago

Clinton signed his crime bill

I wasn't familiar, thanks for the pointer. This rhetoric "though on crime" has been going on from before my birth it seems.

We cannot take our country back until we take our neighborhoods back. Four years ago this crime issue was used to divide America. I want to use it to unite America. I want to be tough on crime and good for civil rights. You can't have civil justice without order and safety.

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[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'm betting that this counts field arrests and not just people that are brought to the station, booked, and detained. By that definition, my close friend circle in high school would have been right in line with this numbers.

I, a white cis-man, was technically arrested twice before I was 23 (once for possession of alcohol and once for possession of marijuana) but I've never been brought to the station or read my rights. Both times a field arrest report was filled out and I was issued an appearance ticket with a court date. This was in NY so your experiences with the same crimes might be wildly different.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I'm unfamiliar with the term field arrest. If I get this right, this is what happens when you get arrested for a misdemeanour on site, cited and then immediately let go? Possibly with a requirement of turning up to a police station for booking, or to a court date?

I read a bit of the paper, and it seems they are simply using the data from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth 1997.

The relevant NLS topical guide says the following:

NLSY97 youth respondents are asked whether they have ever been arrested by the police or taken into custody for an illegal or delinquent offense (not including arrests for minor traffic violations) and the total number of times this has happened.

And looking up the phrasing in the questionnaire is also exactly the same

Have you ever been arrested by the police or taken into custody for an illegal or delinquent offense (do not include arrests for minor traffic violations)?

So I guess it would depend on whether respondents consider a field arrest an arrest and report it.

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it helps keep the for-profit business in business, as being arrested makes it you ineligible for most military services, not all but the more specialize ones will deny you based on that, it still negotiable, except for felony, or SA any sex related crimes.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Arrest is different from imprisonment, it must be noted.

[–] ObsidianZed@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

And that is based on data only up to 2008. You know that's so much worse now.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

I'm in my 40s and have met, I don't know, at least several hundred people over my lifetime more than once. At least as far as I know none of them has been in actual prison. Few have spent their night on the jail when getting too drunk (and obviously done some stupid shit while wasted) and police have "offered" them a bed to sober up but that's it.

Obviously not in the US. I can't even imagine society where nearly every other male you encounter would've been in prison at some point.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Same, except I am in the US. I suspect this is highly stratified by class, such that either nobody you know has been arrested or everybody you know has been arrested.

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[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

Police state

[–] plyth@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (9 children)

and 38 percent of white males

The headline is bad, but my expectation would have been something low like 1% for white men. 30% worse treatment for black men is bad, but it is not the expected 5000%.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is an insane percentage, holy crap.

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[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Why have so many people have been arrested in the US? This is crazy ridiculous.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What was that? The land of the free?

Whoever told you that is your enemy.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

free from rights.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is this an anti-flag lyric? It sounds so familiar

edit: wait it's rage against the machine isn't it

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[–] AstaKask@lemmy.cafe 28 points 1 day ago

Damn. Glad I'll never go to that backwards ass shithole country.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Land of the free...

I'd like to compare with stats for other parts of the world.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

US has more people imprisoned than China. Not per capita, total.

Yep

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

also china loves westerners living in the country as well, particularly if you are white.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works -1 points 15 hours ago

Strange prediction

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