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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

29 days "lost" at sea, is therapy for all of the external bullshit we deal with every fucking day.

By "we" I mean people in society, not just men. Everyone struggles with making their way in "this world" we built for ourselves. We made it to be this horrible.

[–] doug@lemmy.today 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I watch some trash reality TV and always find it kind of funny how contestants spend a long amount of time internalizing the stress of the situation the show they agreed to be on is putting on them.

Half of Love Island is “Why did you kiss them?” “Why did you go on a date with that person?” “Why did you break up with me?” Guys it’s a SHOW. The SHOW is making you go through these completely unnatural circumstances!

And then I think about real life and it’s like “why don’t I have energy? why am I so depressed? why can’t I be more productive?” …guys it’s CAPITALISM/SOCIETY. SOCIETY is making you go through these completely unnatural circumstances!

…except of course I didn’t agree to be on this show.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

None of us did.

I didn't get a say in whether or not to be born. I'm just here now and I have to deal with all of this shit.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

I read this as more "not having to experience the daily news for a month and being horrified".

[–] Snowies@lemmy.zip 49 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

The environment we created for ourselves takes advantage of our evolution and uses our biology against us.

Food is drowned in sugar to get us addicted. Social media is designed to keep us angry and upset. Entertainment is a recycled polished turd, designed to take no risks and challenge nothing and leave us only with shallow amusement.

We are losing our respect for the profound, our empathy for the other, and our curiosity for the unknown.

We have made a world of numbing poison for ourselves. A 29 day separation sounds like the most powerful “therapy” we could have tbh.

[–] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

i was a camp host for a summer and it was possibly the best summer of my life. no power, no water, no internet, minimal contact with people, cleaning toilets, and spending half of my day in a kayak.

[–] theonetruedroid@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago

That sounds like a great way to spend a summer. I wouldn't mind running water but I'd probably learn to appreciate it after not having it for a few months.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

the unexamined life is not worth living

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago

29 days without having to work all day long, deal with chores and family and whatever. And then sleep a couple of hours to do it again. This has nothing to deal with this person going to therapy.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Theraphy, when it works, only solves internal causes of one's pain.

29 days away from present day society, will for a while suspend the external causes of one's pain.

(Which is why the former usually doesn't fully solve everything: the external shit, which often is what indirectly created much of the internal shit via things like trauma and coping mechanisms, is still there and pushing you)

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago

I'm considering hard getting "lost" forever.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

I felt this comment.

Thanks, I hate it.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

If I had everything to survive, a way to go back and couple of books - sign me up.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

"lost at sea"

mf land right over there

????

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 73 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Oh fuck off. Therapy won’t help with… *gestures at everything*

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 49 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Agreed. It’s more like “people would rather be lost at sea than live in a modern society”.

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

To be fair we were breed to be lost at sea/forest/steppe, not live in a modern society. Like that's our natural place to live and die, not a city.

[–] Ougie@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

I don't know what I'm holding out for. Maybe I should fix my teeth, take the gadgets I already have, and get lost forever.

[–] grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 54 points 20 hours ago (10 children)

Quit crying. You'll be fine. Don't be such a crybaby. Man up. Put on your big boy pants. Boys don't cry. Boo hoo, gonna cry about it? Gonna cry like a little girl? Be a man. Face your problems like a man. Crying doesn't help anything. Take it like a man. Don't be a baby. You're acting like a girl. Grow a pair. Suck it up and move on.

Why will men do literally anything besides talk about their feelings?

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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 23 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Therapy has become the new buzzword to prescribe to any individualistic issue because most people don't know what it is or who its for, they just think it's a silver bullet solution to everything because everybody else says so... but it's not.

Therapy is great for specific people with specific disorders, it's there to help provide these people with solutions and treatments to improve their conditions. It's not meant to be a replacement for a social circle or to fix the problems in your life.

Not to mention that therapy is either expensive or hard to access or the therapist you do get to see are usually not that great. It is very hard and very rare to find a good therapist that's affordable and nearby. Even then, a therapist can only do so much. They're trained to work through common disorders using several established methods, but not much beyond that. Therapists can help you overcome your anxiety, but they can't help you find meaningful relationships.

This is doubly true for men, because a lot of men are facing issues related to finding purpose and meaning in life, and that's something that's beyond the scope of therapy. Maybe these issues could be resolved as a result of treating a disorder, but that's not always the case. The point is that therapy is not a magical solution, and it's not going to solve huge societal problems like men turning their backs on society.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

You say men are turning their backs on society. I would argue it's the other way round. Modern society has lots of problems unfortunately, and can be quite hostile especially to men.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

Yes this is very true. I think if anything they go hand in hand, if society is hostile towards you, you are equally more likely to turn your back on it. If you start turning away from society, people are more hostile, so it reinforces that decision. It's still a systematic failing though. Society should be pulling people back from the brink, not pushing them further.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is, of course, the fault of women.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No? It's the fault of all genders. Men perpetuate ideas that hurt other men, and women perpetuate ideas that hurt other women. Vice versa is equally true.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Im sure. So hard to hear men have it so uniquely rough.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No one is saying women don't have it rough. The difference is one gender is being pushed out of society, the other is being pushed under it. Men are basically encouraged to give up and go away, maybe commit suicide or go fight in a war. Women are encouraged to find a "man" and become some tradwife who has no agency. Neither is a good thing, but don't pretend they aren't different.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Non heteronormative women are absolutely encouraged to die.

5150 holds (local code, idk how local) are like a rite of passage.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

I hadn't considered that. I can't say I know much of the struggles of lesbians.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 minutes ago

Also, heteronormative women are only valued for how they can, potentially, make more men. The platonic ideal is kept pregnant and comatose so it doesn't talk.

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