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which plants though? are you making shit up?

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wasn't this more about taking away the names from a bunch of people who in hindsight were terrible people? I remember something awhile back about people getting upset because some groups had decided that if you had a shred of negativity in your past, you weren't allowed to discover and name things. I believe they were trying to change a bunch of names "to not honor the original person".

That didn't feel like science so much as politics and I get why some would be against that.

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

Have you ever been to a niche scientific community conference? It's always been 90% politics.

The Magellanic Cloud community collectively decided that they didn't want to study objects named after someone who had subjugated the ancestors of the communities studying it, so they agreed to call them the Milky Clouds. A pop science article went out about it and people complained that it wasn't science, it was politics. But unless you're a part of that community, you don't get to decide on the names of the objects that these people understand better than literally anyone else alive or dead. They're doing more science regarding these objects than anyone else has ever tried, they get to decide what's best, even if it appears political.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"unless you're a part of the community fuck you"

I can see why it got heated....

[–] HiddenLychee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Well yes, generally that's how jargon is developed. Typically people who don't contribute to the knowledge base of a field don't have any say in how that field uses language.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From henceforth "trees" shall now be called "tall wavy bois" and "flowers" shall be known as "colorful stemmy bennies."

I will not be taking questions.

[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But what will the tree community be about then?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago

!trees@lemmy.world mentioned

[–] binary45@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Weed. Like it’s always been.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

what are the changes and why?

can't post this and expect us to carry on

This sort of thing happens all the time, and it's usually subject to some level of debate. Just look at the ponderosa pine (pinus ponderosa. Some say there is one species with multiple subspecies, some say they are just different varieties, some say that they are different species, or some are and some arent, etc.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah! I'm barely able to get mad about this with no information!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

NPC wojak: "I love science."

"Science says sex and gender are two different things."

NPC wojak gets angry: "Science was corrupted by the Jewish cabal! See: John Money*!"

* John Money is not Jewish, but is pushed by transphobes with the hope you'll accuse him being one.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

forget about John Money

look into Magnus Hirschfeld, had the first gender clinic and did research and surveys on gender, he pioneer gender treatments and helped transsexual people (that's was the name back then)

he was Jewish and was targeted by the Nazis exactly how you said.

The famous book burnings started out when they raided his institute and burned all his research.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Using Martin Hirschfeld has the issue of not being able to sell the myth of "transgenderism is a recent thing".

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

meanwhile,

we still refuse to call Sonic th hedgehog protein anything else.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"Pussy willow will now be called cotton stick."

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