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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago

“All you need is Jesus” -MAGAcucks

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Wait, the bottom ones are PreK-12 students.

How are they planning to reduce the number of children?

Is this why they hired RFK?

[–] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Nah see we gonna use AI to train the kids instead of teachers. Also gotta make sure the AI uses the correct training data, like how the world is 6000 years old and the gays are a sin.

[–] Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Number of children, being educated. Surely we could do that.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 15 hours ago

Surely this would help with the decaying birthrates.

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 49 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

That's only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.

Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they're enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of "their" kind (rich, white, "healthy", etc).

These policies aren't stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago

Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

They want to see people suffer before they die.

[–] ATPA9@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I still don't understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to? What will they exploit the people for if they can sell nothing because only they can afford it? Are they banking on becomming the new china and sell everything to the rest of the world? Wouldn't killing half of your population bite that plan in the ass as a fuck ton of manpower is gone? And if they want to use machines as a replacement wouldn't removing all the smart people be extremely unhelpful?

[–] stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I think the ultra rich are preparing for the collapse of global civilization in our lifetimes. And they're preparing by extorting as much wealth from the people as possible, now, to build redoubts to retreat to, and hire private armies to defend themselves, to bunker down until the wars are over.

Their long-term priority is not the financial health of their companies or their countries. Their long-term priority is surviving World War III and global mass starvation on an unimaginable scale.

Look. Climate change is really fucking bad. However bad you think it is, it's worse. And the global economy is really fucking fragile.

Think about what happens when China or India get hit with a major drought and hundreds of millions face death by famine. Or when the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets go and a billion people in coastal cities are flooded out. Economic disruptions, supply chain breakdowns, a refugee crisis beyond anything the world's ever seen. And as nations get more and more desperate to feed their own people, as the world produces less and less food and less and less clean water, war becomes inevitable.

And war will break supply chains even more. People who aren't locally self-sufficient in food and water won't be able to get food and water from outside their area. Even people who are self-sufficient will become less so as climate change fucks with agriculture. Result? Billions dead of starvation.

(In this interpretation, Trump's obsession with Canada and Greenland makes a lot more sense. When the ice caps melt, that'll be some of the most valuable real estate on the planet.)

Who will they sell to? Nobody. The ultra rich are planning for a future where global population is under a billion and most survivors have been knocked back to subsistence farming. They're setting themselves up to be the techno-feudalist lords of a post-capitalist, post-democracy society.

Deleting science education just helps keep the peasants quiet, so they don't realize what's happening until it's too late.

(Okay, alternate explanation: the people in charge are old men who want to make as much money as possible before they die and don't care about the long-term future at all. That's a much more banal explanation, but more likely to be true - after all, the environment is collapsing now because oil executives in the '60s and '70s looked at the very accurate predictions of climate change their scientists gave them and thought "who cares, I'll be dead by then". But Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Mark Zuckerberg, the other young-ish technocrats? I think they know collapse is coming and are using it as an opportunity to build a new post collapse world in their image.)

[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

We're moving towards an economy of low volume luxury good vs mass produced goods for the average person. Basically the floor will just keep rising until less and less people can afford things. The people who still can afford things will be getting nicer and more expensive stuff as time goes on.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 2 points 16 hours ago

It's probable that they're betting on technological innovation to bring about a post-scarcity economy where profit and capital are irrelevant. And relatively speaking, that could a good thing.

The issue is instead of taking a reasonable utilitarian approach, these people would rather lean on things like:

unmitigated greed

racism

a romanticization of historical imperialism

the social construct within the Western capitalist mindset to incessantly seek new frontiers of exploitation

and the insidious belief that other people don't deserve to participate in such a society; either because of their beliefs or because of immutable characteristics that deem them unworthy or otherwise burdensome to the system.

IMO, the tragedy is that while the rich want to bet on consolidating enough capital to shoot themselves out into space, the statistical likelihood that they will find anything within reach that even remotely resembles the beauty and habitability of our planet is very low. Too bad they will kill all of us first before realizing that.

Something something, when we cut down the last tree and poison the last river...

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[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The whole conspiracy theory of the new world order feels more real every year. Make everyone suffer so they have no choice but to submit to the oligarchs.

People are already having trouble finding jobs. Cutting food stamps and Medicaid feels like pieces of making people suffer in a bigger plan.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 2 points 15 hours ago

The suffering is just a side effect. Massive death is the goal, they just don't want to have to get their hands dirty.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Huge news for the WW3 odds. ✍️

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I've figured this out. If MAGA gets rid of all the smart people, they won't seem as dumb anymore!

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

This reminds me of a particularly hilarious scene from The Death of Stalin where they have all the country's best doctors lined up to save Stalin after his heart attack, but they are all bumbling idiots and Stalins men get angry about how incompetent they are until someone reminds them that Stalin literally killed all the best and most capable doctors in the soviet union out of paranoia.

And so, Stalin dies.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Here's to hoping for a similar result.

[–] ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

A country for REAL (white Christian male) Americans.

When are you people going to get the message. It was never a country that was about equality. It was about enrichment for a select group of people. When their privilege was threatened, the veil came off.

None of this changes until the rest of America decides enough is enough. That might never happen. If it does, it won't be for years or decades.

The US died on Jan 20th, 2025.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 13 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue Citizens United was the death blow.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'd argue Nixon started it.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 4 points 15 hours ago

I'd argue Johnson sealed our fate when he rolled over for Confederates after the war.

But really the argument could bemade that the moment European explorers realized they could just kill people and take their homes away and nobody would stop them, they decided to make it a core part of their identity by rationalizing everything they can, and dismissing whatever they can't.

The devil works hard, but colonizers work harder.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 day ago

Every good authoritorian dictatorsihp first goes for the educated people cause smart people know this shit is fucked.. hitler, mao, polpot, stalin, lenin never failed to do this.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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[–] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I used to wonder how did the Islamic Golden Age end, how did the Muslim World go from leader in science, technology and commerce to has-been. Now I see leaders in the West destroying in years what took centuries to build. Civilizations like living organisms go through cycles of birth, rise, peak, stagnation and decline, some make a comeback in a different form like Europe after the Renaissance and China after Communism, and some don't. Good thing we have other nations picking up after the decline of Western Civilization.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The Islamic golden age ended because of centuries of European crusades followed by the mongol invasion. It had little to do with a lack of appreciation for science and scientists.

But there is only so much scholars can do, when under relentless attacks by barbarians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

This period is traditionally understood to have begun during the reign of the Abbasid caliph Harun al-Rashid (786 to 809) with the inauguration of the House of Wisdom, which saw scholars from all over the Muslim world flock to Baghdad, the world's largest city at the time, to translate the known world's classical knowledge into Arabic and Persian.[4] The period is traditionally said to have ended with the collapse of the Abbasid caliphate due to Mongol invasions and the Siege of Baghdad in 1258.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 18 hours ago

That's how the 3. Reich started.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (11 children)

As non-american I'm becoming increasingly convinced republicans are actually lead by traitors wanting to destroy the US.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago

I dont think that's it.

It's an overwhelming case of "got mine".

Like sanders said, being a GOP member just means staying in line.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Europe is infinitely welcoming of these people, they'll always have a place here.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

Canada has also been increasingly welcoming American expat academics and medical professionals.

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[–] Zezzoz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Europe will welcome them with open arms.

People starts to realize that having a higher wage in the US doesn't translate into a better quality of life.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

i dont believe anywhere is currently safe from fascism.

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 100 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 161 points 1 day ago (7 children)

And still some people think it will be fine in 3.5 years.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

[–] arschflugkoerper@feddit.org 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh my god it’s only been half a year D:

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[–] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

The times, they are a'changing

Death to IMPERIALISM

Death to CAPITALISM

Death to FASCISM

Death to MAGA

[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 127 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can't have climate change if there's no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to 'study' the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brain drain is a difficult downward spiral to break out of once it starts.

[–] verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 day ago

This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.

It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Keep on winning, America!

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