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[–] cygnosis@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Our thinking can be so twisted by religion. Imagine someone long ago wants to build a really tall tower. Nobody knows engineering, material science, etc. They just start stacking rocks on top of each other like they do when they made short buildings. Eventually it's so tall and heavy that it's no longer stable, one side sinks into the ground, and the whole thing falls over. And what's their takeaway? Is it about learning from their mistake and trying again? No, it's "God is punishing your hubris!" Religion just poisons the mind.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Builder: "I'm not incompetent! Uh... God didn't want it to happen. Yeah, that's it; the collapse definitely wasn't my fault at all!"

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I bet a lot of religious tenets come from a lie that got way the fuck out of hand.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That, and accurate observations that they couldn't correctly explain. For example, prohibiting eating pork because it's "unclean," while having no clue about trichinosis. They don't know (scientifically) how to mitigate it, so they just tell people it's a sin.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

The Icarus myth is still a useful analogy, even if you don't believe it actually happened.

And what's their takeaway? Is it about learning from their mistake and trying again? No, it's "God is punishing your hubris!"

Just substitute any force or phenomenon bigger than human ability for "God" in that sentence and it'll still apply to a lot of situations.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago

It also explains why people started speaking different tongues. And Warns the young to not build a thing so ridiculously big, building fall down.

Trying for what is progress, but in sight so you can achieve it is better.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

-said in a world full of weaponized drones, AI deepfakes, and lying, lying nazis who don't have the slightest clue how life works.

The tower of babel is a great lesson.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I never knew about the connection to Babel. TIL

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same, our church growing up never talked about that. (disclaimer atheist now)

I know that scholars understand the "official" Bible as a combination of earlier sources. Still, it's funny how much Bible fanfic there is. How do you decide which stuff is real and which stuff is too crazy.

[–] Szyler@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

How do you decide which stuff is real and which stuff is too crazy.

You selectively choose during each argument whichever fits your personal agenda.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

That just screams that folks don’t actually read the Bible.

Well, that, or 7 year olds just took context and ran with it.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 22 points 4 days ago

I remember being so confused by why the X-Men villain was named Nimrod when I was a kid. I always assumed it was ironic or something but never really got it. Then as an adult I learned about the biblical Nimrod and was like...."oh". I wonder what if would have been like if I hadn't been exposed to Looney Tunes first.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It was Daffy Duck, not Bugs, in "What Makes Daffy Duck." (He says it around 5:36)

[–] MU5T4N6@feddit.org 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't it Daffy Duck who compared Fudd with Nimrod? Bugs Bunny calls Yosemite Dam Nimrod.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

Yes, Daffy did it first. Maybe Bugs popularized it if more people saw the cartoon he said it in later, though.

[–] remotedev@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Why didn't anybody just Google 'nimrod' smh

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"trump" will take on a whole new meaning

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The term "trump card" will mean you cheated with out even hiding it.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

there is a card game streamer called Trump - who I recall was only vaguely aware of Donald Trump when picking the name and I think was like "well if anyone's looking for him and finds me - so be it!"

Funny how that turned out

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Even before 2016 he said he regretted his choice of screen name. Poor guy lol

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's a Big Finish Dr Who audio story, well two I think, where the bad guy is named Nimrod. A scientist in their stories. So not everyone thought the name was an insult....or maybe they did, huh, but figure if the name gets to be known as a main guy the Doctor clashes with they can't really think he's a complete fool.

Though I always remember the cartoons first.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also the name of the neanderthal butler in "Ghost Light" :)

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I looked it up after and yes it was I'm not sure I actually watched that episode though had watched many classic ones.

One day I'll actually watch them all, classic and ones I mean. The older ones are a bit ummm more difficult to enjoy the same way. Always thought Capaldi was short changed in that his two parters, were less interesting than many single episodes of new who but they did try. And mostly I thought it was writing not acting that held them back,Capaldi rocked. But I did like they tried, cause so many old whos were least 4 parters if not more and people were asking but I don't think they had the proper mindset to stretch it out even half as well.

Edit also don't mind me, I just think the Doctor is one of the best characters/heroes of all fiction...he always does the best he can to save all he can. Mean it's cheesy but gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when the story only gives so many options.

if only we could all push for what that character said was good. It'd make a better world.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 4 points 3 days ago

I learned about the biblical hunter from the X-Men's villains

if the punishment is that languages now change, his name being now synonymous for stupid, is a fit punishment

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

Imaging him returning now. “I am Nimrod!!… wait, why are you all laughing at me?”

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

The big mistake was them assuming that all the religious people who claimed to have read the bible actually ever had.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Imagine a book full of ahistorical stories being taken as historical. Now imagine anything that it says mattering at all. It doesn't.

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Damn point me to Jerusalem I got lost

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Spider Man takes place in New York City, therefore Spider Man is real.

[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Are there scrolls, tablets and other artifacts from spiderman in new York? Except of the merchandise after it got popular? Cause that is the case with not-spiderman

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Pathetic.

Jesus is still a myth. Still no actual proof he ever existed.

Get over it

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

Let me point you to the book that started me on a journy. I've been reading books and academic papers on early christianty (first two-hundred years) for the past 20 months. The first time I encountered the christ myth was here:

http://elbespurling.com/salvation/

Thought we war talking about nimrod

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, they're called comic books.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The airplane didn't help either.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 4 days ago

Imagine believing fairytales and magical stories.