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[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

So fishing for sport where they catch and release is basically torture by getting injured by the hook and then asphyxiating for however long they are out of water before being released.

[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 161 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yup. But deep down we all kinda knew that, right? It was always fish torture for sport.

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Now I'm wondering where noodling is on this scale.

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[–] SmokedBillionaire@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago (13 children)

This article in particular is talking about when leaving fish in open air or ice water for the purpose of slaughter. Obviously that would hurt until the fish dies.

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[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The stats on fish survival after being caught and released is actually pretty sad. If I remember correctly there was a lengthy study that showed a survival rate of only like 40%.

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[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Suddenly all the cutesy indie life sims with fishing minigames don’t seem so wholesome any more

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feeling like a fish out of water sounds much darker now.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I remember there was a study done on how to best slaughter swine (pigs).

The methods that were investigated included: a mechanical hit on the head, suffocation in CO2, and some other measures.

What was found was not only that the suffocation method caused significant stress in the animals, but also that the meat collected this way tasted way worse than meat collected through other slaughtering methods.


this could be relevant in this case: if fish suffocate slowly to death, meat producers might have a financial incentive to change that, to be able to sell better-quality meat, possibly at a higher price. anyways, it would make for good advertisement. that is why meat-producers (fish-producers) should take this seriously.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And the reason we still use CO2 slaughter instead of something like Nitrogen is because.... They already have machines built for CO2 and just don't want to pay the cost of changing practices.

Pure greed and laziness.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also co2 is easier because you can fill a pit with it, nitrogen will just float about and disperse.

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[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

My slaughterhouse uses radon. The meat makes my testicle feel funny, and we throw up a lot. And I haven't had hair in years. But it's cheap! And so tender.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never understood the CO2 suffocation idea.. I mean, I don't k ow about fish, but mammals supposedly have a good detection for CO2 in their blood and it'll set off panic alarms everywhere.

Ignoring the vegetarian discussion for a minute, if they could at least use a different gas, say nitrogen or something, it should be a lot less stressful for the animals

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Are you insane? This gas costs a twelfth of a cent more! There's no way we could implement this."

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The article does a shitty job of linking to the paper

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-04272-1

It makes a pretty good case that fish experience a lot of pain immediately after being taken out of the water.

I don't think this will do much to impact commercial fishing, it seems like it's targeted at the slaughter stages of fish farms

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 year ago

Without water, the delicate gill structures that exchange oxygen for carbon dioxide stick together, causing CO2 from respiration to accumulate. These rising levels trigger nociception – the body's alarm system – which causes the fish to gasp. Eventually the elevated CO2 levels acidify the animal's blood and cerebrospinal fluid, ultimately resulting in unconsciousness.

Holy shit. That's horrific.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is why net fishing is so problematic (apart from obvious environmental conserns and bycatch).

Stun your fish people. Don’t let their blood clot and lungs collapse while still conscious for multiple minutes. It’s cruel.

[–] kindernacht@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let their lungs collapse?...

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How about a new sport... Catch the fish under water and slap him a little, but not too hard?

Or how about just riding your rubber boat to where the fish are, then dropping a speaker and shouting "fuck you fish!" Threw the speaker? You could even hurt them intellectually!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's a lot manlier and cooler to stand in the water and grab the fish with your bare hands anyways, then you can look it in the face and tell it to fear god before letting it go

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[–] DasFaultier@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So what you're saying is that Kurt Cobain was wrong and it's actually not OK to eat fish because they do, in fact, have feelings?

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I believe this is why Japanese fishermen will sometimes use the ikijime method where you kill the fish fast. I believe it also improves the quality of the meat too.

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[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm still not going to tell you where my secret fishing spot is, no matter how many times you ask or scientific studies you perform.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

there's a trend on TikTok where you catfish (heh) men and ask them what their favorite fishing spot is

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's why there is Ikejime, the japanese method to dispatch fish

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why you just shoot them in the head with a harpoon when you take them out of the water

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Most fish are caught using trawling nets, which as far as I know, can be up to 50 miles long. Gonna need a fucking attack helicopter to handle all that.

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[–] Steelkrill@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Poor thing :(

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Bring back dynamite fishing then!

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