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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 89 points 2 weeks ago (18 children)

I don't think many people working outside pediatric healthcare really have an understanding about how comfortable healthcare providers are prescribing interventional care.

When diagnosing and treating a patient we come up with a plan of care that is weighted on total outcomes. Now this isn't a perfect system, for example we may not completely understand the potential harm of new medications. However, we are creating the plan of care with the best information we have at the time. Taking potential side effects and weighing it against the potential harm that could occur without any treatment.

I specialize in pediatric orthopedics and rehabilitation....so take anything I say about gender affirming care with a grain of salt. However, the potential outcome for not treating gender dysphoria as I understand it is pretty bad....self harm and suicide are about as bad as an outcome as one could imagine. Now weigh that against the medications that are usually prescribed for gender affirming care which are well known, and most often prescribed without negative effect for a plethora of treatments ranging from precocious puberty, to monitoring rate of which growth plates close.

Hormone replacement therapy has been going on for decades and is very common place at any hospital that atends to pediatric patients. To claim that intervention isn't appropriate for something with a potential total outcome as bad as suicide, based off "kids can't consent" is a ridiculous notion considering that the same drugs are often prescribed to make sure a child doesn't develop a limb length discrepancy after an orthopedic surgery.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago

Its also worth noting, that kids, especially when they are aware of their condition before puberty, are gonna have a really fucking bad time in puberty. Seeing your body change in a way, that is directly contradictory to what you want can be absolute hell. Theres also the possibility to prescribe puberty blockers and therefore stopping puberty. If a kid then later decides, that it does want to go through puberty they can stop taking the blockers. They won't really have any long term changes from going through puberty some time later, but on the other hand you just made the life of all kids that dont want to go through puberty way better.

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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 58 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

The fact that bad shit is normalized isn't a great argument in this instance.

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Yes it is. The argument is that people having a moral panic over kids getting gender affirming care (which they erroneously believe to be bottom surgery, that's another can of worms), which is shown to be safe and effective, are not having the same moral panic (and even are likely to be the same demographic enabling this behaviour) over actual, proven to be a disaster for your health activities, shows that all these people are simply transphobes.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not transphobic to recognize a bad argument against trans hate. There are plenty of good arguments against it

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Where transhobes do and do not direct their attention betrays their motivations.

Their motivations are very important.

The OP comment is not anti-transitioning, nor pro-child-meth.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

actually i've heard from a ton of people that youth ballet training is apparently problematic to them

but not because of the medical complications that certainly do arise with it. instead, because of supposed youth sexualization.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And then let's not forget beauty pageants and professional kids sports in general. All of it in my eyes is extremely unethical. Kids should be doing their own growing up and their own clubs focused on meaningful growth not entertainment.

This is actually one of real problems of capitalism that no one is talking about. Since early investments are incredibly valuable in capitalistic societies kids with early entertainment training have advantage but using kids for entertainments is in practice simply unethical. This is equivalent of sexualizing kids early so they become sexy adults. Nasty stuff when you spend a minute actually thinking about.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Generally all peak athletes started very young, probably because of the parent's dreams and not the child's. I would have a problem with a lot of those situations.

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[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Invalidating ADHD doesn't make trans people feel better, it only perpetuates ableist and medically misinformed views on ADHD.

Particularly women, minorities, and non-binary people, who have historically been severely underdiagnosed and neglected as is. Girls are 16 times less likely than boys to receive an ADHD diagnosis and treatment.

Women who speak out about their ADHD are often dismissed on social media as ‘self diagnosed pick me girls’ just seeking attention. In reality, many are speaking up against the ongoing crisis of medical neglect.

Untreated ADHD can put already vulnerable people into higher risk of developing clinical depression and other comorbid mental health issues. ADHD medication can be life saving, and calling it meth only serves to stigmatize the mental health issues ADHD patients go through, as well as discourage them from getting the help and medication they need.

If you call yourself an ally to trans people, that includes trans people with ADHD. There is no need to add to their intersectional struggles when they already have so much on their plate.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 37 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I'd like to bring circumcision into this discussion.

Any Healthcare provider that performs this on a child should be arrested for child abuse.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

There are a number of reasons why one could be medically necessary. I agree that medically unnecessary surgical procedures to infant genitals for purely cosmetic or cultural reasons are pretty unjustifiable, but "any healthcare provider... Should be arrested" is either a bit ill informed, or a wildly extremist position.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Ok but let's not further the anti adhd meds bandwagon. I'd be a high-school dropout instead of a college graduate without them

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Who cares?! All I wanna know is which bathroom they use!!!

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago

Dexies != meth.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

many intersex people had impromptu surgery performed on them after being born because the doctor determined that their genitalia did not conform to their standards of male or female. this typically happens with no parental support or consent, but even if the parents are made aware, it isnt exactly made apparent the ramifications of what will be done.

[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Amphetamines is not the same as meth.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Not the same, but according to wikipedia it is also sometimes used to treat ADHD

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

Its literally the first sentence of the "use" section.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago

Then there's kids playing contact sports. Rugby is fucking brutal.

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