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Not to mention you'll do a better job at it if you think for yourself on the subject rather than delegating it to a spiritual leader with potentially dubious agendas
should be happening with gen z and alpha too, but gen z has more right wingers than previous generations, due to significant propaganda.
Good for them.
These ancient lies designed for crowd control have been horrible these past thousand years.
Not that modern political groups or sects etc are much better...
because its bullshit?
Lmao because it's horse shit that's why
Source: me, a 37-yo exmormon who was all-in, true believer, until his mid 20s.
I feel like the unloved sect is really the unitarian universalists. They're basically a doctrine free "church" of social justice. Like, I love going sometimes and just getting more advice on how to be an excellent human to others. And then we have snacks.
Well, my whole life, I've lived in a society where organized Christianity has overwhelmingly been a force for evil, rather than a force for good. Fuck, I straight-up believe that most Evangelical Christians are devil worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren't worshiping God, you're worshiping the Devil.
Christianity is, by definition, a cult of human sacrifice.
Kinda puts the entire faith into perspective.
Death cult
They ritualistically eat the body and blood of their god/savior.
Let that sink in.
Well, they were in luck... he's only mostly dead. If he was all the way dead, it wouldn't have worked. but Mostly dead? Miracle Max can work with that.
Dooms day death cult.
Lead by Jesus, the dooms day death cult leader.
I hear he's a "good guy."
I don't think dooms day death cult leaders, make believe or not and I just mean a historical grifter non magical, are good people.
Suicidal Death Cult
They are actively doing everything in their power to bring about the end of the world.
When you're actively trying to bring about the end of the world, there's no more apt description.
Death Cult Armageddon, great Dimmu album. My parents got it for me along with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant for Christmas one year but they wouldn’t buy me Diablo II because Diablo “didn’t fit the theme of the holiday.”
No. The christoan God is evil. They're doing exactly as their religion demands.
Part of this is just that the socially conservative pressure to fit in has eased. Time was you had to be "religious" to fit in to communities and it was seen as part of American identity.
I find it hard to believe 75% of Americans are religious. In the UK 37% identify as non religious. 45% identify as Christian yet churches have emptied our and most young people only end up in one for marriages or funerals. People say they're Christian but I have no doubt a large chunk of those people are just ticking a box on a census form as it's part of their identity.
there is literally nothing that religion can provide that can't be gotten without religion
For real. You can just buy those styrofoam wafers and some cheap wine if you really want them. You don't have to go to church.
¡obleas!
I guess messed up ideas about sexuality and consent in general aren’t strictly under their purview. Or, subservience to arbitrary authority figures.
What about rape in a rectory? Probably doesn’t happen too often outside of a religious context.
I support a few religious organizations through volunteer work.
My rules for these organizations are simple:
- The religion takes a back seat to helping the community
- They're not preachy or trying to convert people
- They don't diddle little kids.
You'd think it'll be easy to meet that criteria.
How would you even know if #3 was true or not, it's not like they advertise it.
"You will know them by their fruits" ahh criteria
I'm curious which is more common a failing #3 or #2.
most christian charity or aid orgs are mostly about that captive audience.
Only one I can think of is Unitarian Universalist for all 3. Maybe some sort of Buddhism? Though probably have broken #3 and are very big/organized.
I do volunteer for a Unitarian church and a Buddhist temple! Nailed it.
They don’t diddle little kids.
You know they don't, when they perform a song about it...
insight into why.
Because it's not fucking real?
This isn't rocket surgery.
That hasn't become any more or less true in recent years, though. It's worth asking why people are now thinking of the idea differently than they did for the past several thousand
Well I suppose there's still no proof that there never was a so-called "divine Y-chromosome" as believed in by Christians, but before we knew about DNA, or even human cells, the ridiculous legends of religion were definitely harder to refute. The ridiculousness of those legends was a big part of their power - the more stupid and unhinged a religious story appears to us today, the more in awe believers would have been about it 300 or 400 years ago.
So while religion hasn't become less real in recent years, it has become a lot easier to point out its absurdities.
The faster the better. It’s fundamentalists creating a lot of the problems in the world as they try to force their beliefs on others.
Better understanding of the physical world than previous generations, for one thing. That and the advent of TV and Internet made it much harder to hide the hypocrisy and crimes.
I feel like they're missing an important point
Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.
However with modern society, information is easy to get and everywhere. So people know about organized religion's issues, and without that structure and reinforcement, we see a slower but substantial reduction in general belief in God that will continue for generations as less people are indoctrinated into organized religion at a young age.
Not sure why the author acts like it's a mystery
Most organized religions blue the line between clergy and god so followers need to believe their religious leaders are pretty close to infallible, like God is claimed to be.
It's because the fundamental purpose of religion is control for the purpose of concentrating power.
To understand these trends more fully, the researchers analyzed interview data from 54 participants whose religious involvement had significantly declined over the decade.
These interviews revealed a recurring theme: many young people left institutional religion not because they stopped caring about spirituality, but because they felt a growing disconnect between their personal values and the teachings or practices of religious organizations. They spoke of churches that felt judgmental, hypocritical, or out of touch—particularly on issues of gender and sexuality. Participants described feeling alienated by institutions that seemed to limit, rather than support, their pursuit of authenticity, justice, and self-understanding.
Gen-Z is all about it though. Gen-Z is stupid and backwards… voting for Trump, going to church. What a bunch of losers.
It's cool they'll learn there's no god when trump drafts their asses