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Oh wow. Just looked at the votes of a harmless happy post that had lots of upvotes and a few downvotes. With this tool, I was able to figure out who was that one downvoter. Well, then I dug a bit deeper, and found out that this user seems to be a serial downvoter. Every day, there's a proper barrage of downvotes directed at pretty much anything and everything.
I have very mixed feelings about this discovery. Kinda nice to know all this, but it certainly didn't make me happier.
Every small-to-medium sized community trying to build will have a handful of users like this. I managed to discover the serial downvoters on my old lemm.ee comm and when I banned them (about 4 of them?) it had a huge impact. They didn't all downvote /everything/ but they downvoted a lot of things, and no contribution. And if they got in early, they could sink new threads.
Made a huge difference.
It's a nice tool for admins and mods, but then again they already pretty much had access to this information. I've always believed votes are obscured for good reason, and knowing how people vote on your posts and comments is only going to bring about negative emotions.
Wait, we did? I'm a mod and had no idea I could see peoples' votes. How do I do that? I say, as I probably will never use it until I start seeing my communities consistently getting downvotes on inoffensive posts that have no misinformation and are clearly on topic.
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Hey you are right, thank you!
For any other mods unaware of this feature, it only works on posts in communities you mod.
You're welcome!
I'm not a mod but that's my understanding yes. An actual mod could probably help you, I guess ask for help in a fediverse/Lemmy support community?
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Mods and admins need to know, but everyone else will just find sadness in this kind of data. I asked, but clearly wasn’t ready to hear the answer. Well, now I know where some of those seemingly random downvotes come from.
But if your a community moderator, you can use this tool to identify the bad actors and uninvite them from the party.
You can already see votes directly in the Lemmy UI as a mod
Blaze maybe this should go into the sidebar?
Added at the end of the resources
Dev here, just a heads up that the blog post is outdated
Thanks! Should we remove it, and just leave the access to the website?
Yeah I recommend removing it, as the technical part of it is not relevant anymore. You can add a new one if I get around to writing it.
Post up votes: 96k
Post down votes: 171
Comment up votes: 91k
Comment down votes: 162
I'm a pretty easy guy to please.
That is an insane number of upvotes
I like it, thanks Lena.
I have somehow used it to stop @threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works from consistently downvoting me in their excellent corvids community, by calling them out for downvoting a comment in support of my issue. Before that, they downvoted every comment of mine but have stopped since.
Transparency makes for polite neighbors
Before that, they downvoted every comment of mine but have stopped since.
Ah, thanks for the reminder.
Haha, no worries. But you did not like getting your toxic ass called out there, did you.
Anyway, it's kinda nice to see that regular users seem to support my case, downvotes all come from you or cm0002 and their claquers who have nothing to do with the niche topic, just politics.
the best thing for old internet beefs is to just let it go and walk away. bygones. its all done and dusted, no need to stir the pot
It is not old internet beef, it is ongoing. I am not looking for it, I want to just be left alone by them, that's it.
If you just want to be left alone you probably shouldn't @ one of the fighting parties
I am not going to just swallow their bullying but will keep speaking my mind on it, I want to have some agency for the content I post. They spoil my fediverse experience. It's not like they'd stop if I'd just shut up.
ok... what is the TLDR?
They reupload your original photos to different communities?
Yes. With the stated goal to reduce the already measly interaction I get posting niche stuff because I post it to the 'wrong' community.
You own the copyright on the photos? Why not copyright strike/claim/dmca the reuploading as unauthorized?
They have full support of the mod of that community (threelonmusketeers), who knows very well that i don't want my content to be reposted there, as they downvote all my complaints about it.
Sopuli admins see no problem with what they're doing and I also chatted with @mrkaplan@lemmy.world and he also thinks it's fine.
do you own the copyright?
Well I guess, these are my photos and videos.
Then you can use the copyright system against people reuploading your content without authorization.
The best outcome seems to be they stop posting your copyrighted content, and that is exactly what the very overburdened arm of copyright is designed to do. Since they wont listen to your requests to not upload copyrighted material they don't leave you much choice.
sopuli.xyz says its based in Finland and the country does have robust legal system including normalized notification of infringement practices. https://www.cupore.fi/wp-content/uploads/migrated-assets/tiedostot/pilottitutkimusraportit/pilotreportds9_sanctionsandremediesforcopyrightinfringement.pdf Take a look at page 19 - Section H
the next step would be to make the owners of sopuli.xyz officially aware of the copyright infringement hosted by their community
second escalation would be to file a DMCA request with their US based domain name provider, and to their german hoster
Basically keep escalating in written form so nobody can claim ignorance
Thank you very much for the pointers, I will look into it when I get home and find the time. But seriously fuck @threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works for even making me consider this.
Dude, getting emotional and aggressive does not project strength from your position, it puts people against you. be dispassionate, be factual
Start putting watermark copyright notices on your photos.
But you did not like getting your toxic ass called out there, did you.
Given that votes on Lemmy are pseudo-anonymous, publicly calling someone out for how they vote comes with a certain amount of aggressive or combative connotation. However, I recognize that "pseudo-anonymous" is not "actually anonymous", and I respect your freedom to do so.
You thought long and hard for that reply, and it turned out very reasonable.
Seeing that you're so such a reasonable person i wonder what made you downvote what they had posted there?
Damn i should vote more
Total post upvotes: 722
Total post downvotes: 4
Total comment upvotes: 1699
Total comment downvotes: 34
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