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[–] Ekybio@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the article it says that 78% of Democrat men are in favor of abortion most cases, while for republican men its only 19%. Quite the difference, though not surprising given what conservative talking points entail when it comes to bodily autonomy.

I add that to gigantic the pile of reasons why right-wingers are repugnand and dont deserve to ruin a womens life with their antiks.

If you are a women in online dating, its worth asking a few sorting questions on social issues before a meetup, so you can dodge these bullets. Worked wonders for me.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Then they aren't men. Real men don't try and control women. We are secure enough that we don't mind others making decisions about their own bodies.

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. I realized at some point that if I said I supported choice, it must never be my choice.

Abortion should be a decision between the person seeking the abortion and their doctor/care provider.

That's it. No hedging about rape or incest, number of weeks, the reason one is being sought, or the manner of the procedure.

I support access to abortion.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago

I want to live in a world where no entity gets to use my organs without my consent. I want to live in an equitable / just world.

Therefore, I want to live in a world where no fetus gets to use any person's uterus without their consent. I support access to abortion.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think you are running a risk of No True Scotsman, but I agree that detoxified masculinity rejects controlling persons.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm a 58 year old man who is fully secure in my masculinity. I don't care what people think.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

No such thing as toxic masculinity when you demand for it.

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being an asshole doesn't diminish one's masculinity.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, it does. Being an asshole is a choice. Men don't choose to be assholes. For instance Andrew rate us an asshole. He also isn't a man. He's an insecure douchebag.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't try to "real men do X" here. You wouldn't do that to women, so follow your own standards

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ill say what I want, where I want

And no. Real men don't tell women what to do with their body? Don't agree , you have the issue not me.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

& I'll tell you that you have no right to decide who's a real man & who isn't. Just like you or I wouldn't tell a woman to act like or be a "real woman".

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And you'd be wrong. EOS. Now. Good evening.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

The men who are supposedly against abortion would be first in fucking line to get one if men could get pregnant...

[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter what ~~men~~ anyone without female reproductive organs think, it's none of their fucking business. It shouldn't even be a discussion.

A ~~man~~ person without female reproductive organs only gets to decide whether they'll be there or not if the ~~woman~~ person with female reproductive organs decides to not terminate the pregnancy.

Edit: had to modify my statement to satisfy the @SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one. Apparently they know a lot of trans men who are against abortion.

[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LilB0kChoy@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. Goodbye!

[–] vala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is devicive bullshit.

Edit: spelling is over my head

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The word is 'divisive', as in it divides people - causes division.

Are we supposed to avoid talking about misogyny like this? Because this wouldn't be a divisive topic if men didn't try to force women to have pregnancies they aren't ready for.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes I spelled the word wrong. English makes no sense.

This article is super questionable.

The point is the people in power will twist things as much as needed to try to draw lines between anything BUT the working and owning class.

This is clearly an attempt to do that. We cant feed the propaganda machine.

To be clear, having discussions about misogyny and abortion is important. But I'm super hesitant to engage with anything that tries to control the conversation with some "poll shows" type bullshit.

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neither party supports women's health and autonomy with their own healthcare

If either party did would been done something with in the half century since Roe v. Wade

Always a fundraiser grab, talking point at the Democrat galas

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago

Democrats tried for single-payer but didn't have the votes

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Oh really, what was Kamala doing then ?

[–] bdjukeemgood@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I support killing of all kinds. There’d be a lot less assholes if someone could just end you for whatever reason.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

This produces a free market of violence. We can see already from the free market of the goods and services, and the free market of ideas, that free markets tend toward worse outcomes pretty much every time. If anything, a free market of violence would tend towards a world where only assholes survive.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Blood for the blood god?

I Actually assume everyone is crazy enough to murder me at work so I treat everyone nicely. Never know when someone is going to lose it and I want to be the person that gets the "thanks for the snickers" and gets let go.