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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The Pentagon was scrambling Monday to establish rules to guide U.S. Marines who could be faced with the rare and difficult prospect of using force against citizens on American soil[...]

What the fuck timeline is this shit. The rule is that you can't do that you absolute glue sniffers. I know this sub demands civility but this is truly madness.

“No statutory authority Trump has invoked so far permits this.”

Right, because this is newborn fascist shithole.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Probably time to buy a gun. We're already seeing ICE copycat criminals kidnapping people. nobody can verify if they're real or not.

They're trying to create chaos and its absolutely working because they own the media and are just cherry picking it for propaganda.

They'll probably murder a bunch of people with marines and fox news will say it was terrorists. putin seized power after a false flag bombing on an apartment complex in 1999 and as we've seen every accusation is a confession with these trump death cultists.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

We are ripping that up too it seems.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they start shooting protesters then our second amendment right and duty to fucking shoot back.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 17 points 1 year ago

How are you even supposed to know if they are government agents when ICE is going around in plain clothes with no identification or warrants?

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

All that does practically is prevent them from making arrests. It does not prevent them from deploying on US soil, or using force against civilians.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their is no reason for the military to be used in the USA against its own citizens.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The police is already heavily militarized.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

"There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."

-William Adama, Battlestar Galactica-

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to a U.S. official, troops will be armed with their normal service weapons but will not be carrying tear gas. They also will have protective equipment such as helmets, shields and gas masks.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh good... Glad it's just normal guns. Wouldn't want anyone to get hurt by tear gas...

[–] poldy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Reputable military never use tear gas, etc. It's a chemical weapon, and hard to distinguish from lethal ones. So it would invite a Sarin/GB/VX response from enemy, which they don't want.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If the rules say anything more than "no use of force", then it's too much.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No military force will ever be deployed anywhere with that restriction. They could be delivering food and medicine to an orphanage, and they would still be prepared to respond to any aggression.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tiananmen square LA.

Because there's no collateral damage too great when it comes to oppressing the fight against tyranny. Just wipe the event from history, act like nothing happened. Dehumanize the opposition and slaughter them like pigs, kill press freedom to control the narrative.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It gets real dangerous if the National Guard unit hesitates or refuses to take a shooting order and the Marines are ordered to respond to that as mutiny.

That's how it'd be an equivalent flashpoint for violence I think.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 20 points 1 year ago

I've seen that move. So next is to lock down the city, establish holding camps and go door by door to root out all "undesirables" for deportation.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Does anyone remember the message from "A Few Good Men"?

"We were supposed to fight for the people who couldn't fight for themselves."

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Military should be storming the fucking white house about now, not LA...

[–] Dillenger69@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Illegal orders. Any marine who follows them should be held accountable. As we found out after WWII, "I was just following orders" is no excuse. I'm ex-military. They drilled down HARD on not following Illegal orders.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 11 points 1 year ago

They should refuse their orders and arrest Trump et all.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

"Possible", my ass.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here is a video from 11 years ago of training by the U.S. Marines 2nd Battalion, 1st Marines in Non-Lethal Riot Control

https://youtu.be/JX1aW7IyQDE

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The only acceptable rule is DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

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