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Telegram, an essential communication tool for millions, finds itself under scrutiny once again. Copyright holders have long expressed concerns about the lack of enforcement on the platform, and recent actions suggest Telegram is responding. Subscribers to Z-Library's popular channel recently noticed that several of the shadow library's messages have been removed "due to copyright infringement."

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 21 points 2 years ago (4 children)

When will people start using Signal or Matrix for this? Signal supports public, encrypted chat rooms and so does Matrix.

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[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

you're on a piracy community but you're licensing your comments?

if you don't respect other's licences, why should they respect yours?

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 years ago

Not gonna lie... That little link is funny to me.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

On the face of it, I appreciate that it looks funny, but the power dynamics are quite different. If I'm caught pirating, my ass could land in jail. If a company is caught pirating, it's written off a business expense.

Would you find it as ridiculous if a slave whipped their owner? If the poor stole from the rich? If the weak took power from the powerful?

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[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

None of those examples have any relation to the ignorance of these licensing links.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

What "ignorance"? The licensing link is added manually. I've read it.

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[–] magic_smoke@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Also what's the point of being anti-ai when you're already anti-cpyright?

The issue isn't generative AI, its capitalism. The AI just makes capitalism's bad parts more efficient, or is at least supposed to.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't believe you want a genuine answer. You've already made a decision, so no matter what I say, you won't agree with it 🤷 There's no need to continue.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago

Almost as if context matters, huh? 🤷

Well that's an assumption...

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

They don’t make money out of copyright and are a person not corporation.

In my private ethical code this is valid.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What's wrong with trying to prevent companies scrape your data? How is that antithetical to piracy?

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Can't you see the irony of licensing your comment on a piracy forum?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not if I think about it for longer than a second. Anti-AI licensing is aimed at corporations. Piracy is done for individuals getting a product.

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@onlinepersona I think I might start using Signal as well today.

[–] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't recommend Signal for privacy. It has quite a few concerning issues. There are some good alternatives however. I think Briar is good if privacy is your chief concern. Sam Bent compared some of the other alternatives in this video.

[–] fourwd@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Matrix sucks, it always loses some chat messages when the client is closed and sometimes it says something like "hey dude something is wrong with your session, log out and use your security key to get access again and don't lose everything".

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

[Sincere] Would you like solutions to this or would you prefer not to use it?

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which client are you using and when was the last time you used it? I haven't had those issues in about 3 years on Element.

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not who you replied to, but I've experienced it on both vanilla Element and on Schildichat over and over, as well as repeated logouts that require signin approval from one of my other active sessions.

That are on devices on different floors of the house, or even in different parts of the city.

Shit's jankey as hell.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Very weird... I've had the same clients (Element) for years and haven't been logged out once. Just out of curiosity, do you switch between the clients (Element on one computer, Schildichat on another)? That could be the problem.

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[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I've been using a self hosted server for 5+ years now without any issue. I'm not in many huge rooms and mainly use it for 1:1 chats but its been solid for me.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

shocked pikachu face

Imagine using a messenger without meaningful end-to-end encryption and expecting privacy and no moderation forever.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Why anyone's still using Telegram is beyond me...

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago

It has a shiny chat interface and that's all people care about 🤷

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[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone uses WhatsApp these days.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago

How is that any better? It's owned by fucking Facebook

[–] nivellian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Mostly cause the satisfying functionality/usability and least laziness to move on to another platform. Also I am subscribed to many news, software and dev channels on Telegram so I just sticked with it. Also I use AdGuard on my phone and I never saw ads in my Telegram; was shocked seeing ads pop up in my friends Telegram though. But off topic here, I think Z Library's channel being on Telegram was not a good idea, Matrix would have been a way more robust option. But there is worse: pirate servers run on Discord, like seriously... why...

[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Furries and their sticker packs.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

Fuck it's starting

Next time use matrix.