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[–] ShankShill@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

My daughter's dog that is a climber got on a shelf and knocked a basket off that had a large bottle of Tylenol in it. She chewed the bottle up.

I got home and saw some pills and a demolished bottle on the ground. Vet tech friend said to induce vomiting with hydrogen peroxide.

Didn't have any of that, but I did have some minty mouthwash with peroxide and no xylitol in it. Dog willingly drank it, puked with foam, drank a bit more, puked more foam, then I dug through the mess.

No pills or any sign of the color on the pills. She's still kicking.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Is this real? Who gets a liver donor in 4 days?

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like American healthcare to me.

You either cope, and probably cause irreparable hard to yourself, or you go to the clinic or ER and get labeled a drug seeker.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago

Americans don't call it paracematol, they call it acetaminophen or just tylenol. This is from the UK.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

He's lucky it was just his liver. People who overdose or try to commit suicide with it are not in for a good time or quick death and after it's absorbed into your body it will cause a systemic shutdown of several organs like the kidneys and pancreas. Not just the liver, and there's absolutely no way to counteract this after that first 36 hours. You will die (you aren't getting all of the organs replaced) and it will take days before you succumb. No antidote or life support or anything can be done for you.

You'll feel fine the first day but may have some vomiting. By day 3 the jaundice and stomach pain sets in as the liver is first to show signs of the organs failure and it's no longer possible to counteract the drug. By the fourth day your organs start shutting down and you'll have much more pain and vomiting. All that can be done is get your affairs in order because you'll be dead and in pain while you wait around to die and regret your suicide.

I say suicide because it's almost always intentional. It usually takes 40 325mg pills to cause this, although the liver damage can be caused with 20+ pills in an adult, generally. If you think you've possibly overdosed get to the hospital quick and tell them what you've taken so they can start you on Acytylcystine. If you "feel fine" after the first day or so and think you're all good you may be wrong and when day Tyree rolls around and your feeling bad or jaundiced your liver is already wrecked and can't be fixed.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

What's a better pill to kill yourself with?

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Propofol I think?

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Just better, a rusty hammer

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Difficult to eat such a mighty meal

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 57 minutes ago

That's extremely painful

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 points 6 hours ago

I had intense tummy aches for 15 days where I couldn't walk and needed to keep heat to my belly to even function, once my pain killers didn't work, I didn't push it, I just tried to handle the pain

I cried a lot in that time, it fucking sucked, but it sure was better than liver failure.

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

ITT: People who don't know the difference between acute and chronic ODs and how a smaller amount over a long period can hurt you. 325mg APAP x4 will not kill you short term.

The problem was taking it every day over a long period.

Its still fucking stupid though.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

325mg APAP x4 will not kill you short term.

Yeah I'm p sure the daily maximum on the package is 4k

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 39 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Not "even paracetamol". ESPECIALLY paracetamol.

Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol is both weak ass painkiller and really dangerous because the overdose line is low. Here they put it in synthetic opioid drugs, it doesn't help with pain but does make them more dangerous.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 55 minutes ago

Opioids are fir suffering whereas acetaminophen is for pain signals. A combination of ibuprofen and acetaminophen have been demonstrated to be the most effective pain killer we currently have.

Pain and suffering are different things.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It’s good at reducing fever

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

oh yea it isnt as good as other otc nsaids, like ibuprofen and naproxen, or aspirin. oh and that fake pseudoephedrine mimic(phenyleprine) for cogestion, they already said it has no effect whatsoever. its mostly the 1st generation antihistamines doing all the work for your sinuses when you have the cold anyways.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
[–] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

Off the shelf in the UK, they're sold in packs of either 8 or 16 tablets, and shops are legally only allowed to sell you two packs at once. Pharmacies can of course supply larger quantities with a prescription.

The recommended dose is one or two 500mg tablets every 4 hours with a maximum of 8 tablets per day.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think in UK paracetamol is sold over the counter in 28 x 500mg tablets most commonly. Larger packs or higher strengths are prescription only I think.

So 1 pack should last 3.5 days at the max adult dose of 8 per 24h - but I think it'd recommend seeing your doctor if you get into a second pack and you're still using that maximum dosage.

Generally shops will limit sales to 2 packs, but it's easy to shop around so that's no limit.

[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Asking the real questions.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Kinda surprised you didn't give some it answer

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 35 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

It's bizarre to me that someone can make it to adulthood without knowing that paracetamol specifically is no fucking joke.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

People look up resources on them and see that the recommended max dose of ibuprofen is lower than paracetamol per day in weight of the active ingredient and stop reading.

They don't get to the part about how the effect per weight isn't the same. Or how damaging paracetamol can be for the liver if you take it regularly or go over the recommend limit. Heavy drinkers especially don't take into account the extra stress on their liver, which is a contributor to the 400-500 deaths it causes every year in the US alone.

Meanwhile ibuprofen makes you feel sick and want to vomit once you start to go over the recommended limit. And if you reach that stage, you basically just stay hydrated to keep your kidneys going and wait for it to pass. Since it usually takes another 2-3 times as much to for the severe effects to occur.


To quote Scrubs:

Dr. Cox: Did you just page me to ask me how much ibuprofen to give Mrs. Lenzner here?

Sunny: Well, I was worried it would exacerbate the patient's

Dr. Cox: It's ibuprofen! Here's what you do. When she wakes up, get her to open her mouth nice and wide, then get some of those ibuprofen pills in your hands and throw them at her. Whatever sticks in there, that's the correct dosage.

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[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's people like this who make other people think any amount of painkillers is bad, and seem to get a sense of superiority about them for never taking any.

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[–] sxan@midwest.social 26 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

You know what else is stupid? Pain management in the US. I get that you need to be careful about addiction, but the idea that people should have to suffer pain because we're having a pain medication "reefer madness" spasm is idiocy.

The guy just kept taking them until his teeth stopped hurting. Why is the alternative that he just has to put up with being in pain?

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Yes it is. I have had, over my 40 years as migraineuse (they started in my teens) 5 intractable migraines. Meaning less than once every 5 years I get one that lasts days, I cannot eat or drink, just puke. I used to be able to go to my doctor and get shot up with opiates and Phenergan, so much of it, they would do one dose, come back later, another, another, another, until finally I would say "it still hurts but I don't care" and go home nodding like a junkie, sleep and wake up with no headache, and, importantly, NO desire for more drugs.

Now the opiates are not allowed because they didn't work. But nothing works on the status migraine. Now they give you a cold cocktail IV of some sort of Advil and nausea medicine and it doesn't work either, and costs $2,000 because it can only be done in the emergency room not the doctor office.

It's adding insult to injury. There has to be some way to make these available for acute situations at least.

[–] sulgoth@lemmy.world 27 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that the drug companies lied about the addictiveness of their product so doctors were handing them out like candy didn't help.

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[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

We have never had good pain management here. Claiming babies can't feel pain, black people hace higher pain tolerance, etc etc. then we swung into really permissive use with oxycodone for a while.

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