Weird how he imagines Drump gives a fuck about space.
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Aaaaaand...this is why you don't outsource this kind of shit to private interests. At any point, they can just pick up their ball and go home. Now all the money they invested in SpaceX just gets flushed down the drain. The government winds up with nothing to show for it.
Which is strange because in my world where the govt pays for my work they own all my work as I make it.
It’s “weird” how the big boys get different rules
That's because...technically...the government mostly provides contracts to SpaceX to take their stuff to and from orbit. They're basically paying for a service...not investing in SpaceX's product development. Even though that is an indirect result of giving them those contracts.
It's like hiring a landscaper to do your lawn. They come with their own equipment, so even though they bought it using the money you pay them...you don't own any of it. They do.
Sounds like corruption 101
The American space program has literally always run this way. NASA decides mission and requirements, private industry sells them rockets they usually then modify and perform their own checks and maintainence on.
The problem is that that system is predicated on having a functioning aerospace industry with multiple competitors you can go to instead of just one company with a viable product thanks the ravages of neoliberalism.
Except that NASA is a nationally owned branch of the government. They answer directly to the executive branch and are funded by Congress. They are not a "company". They are a government agency.
The federal government can just national security/eminent domain take that shit.
And set up a conflict between the bourgeoisie and the Trump administration.
I've said this a long ago and kept getting downvoted... I'm all for kicking Elon by making fun of the CyberTruck and calling everything be touches shit, but Tesla and SpaceX have some of the smartest engineers in the world and they made a lot of good technology that would be too sad to throw away because a Nazi capitalist owned the companies.
Normalize the idea of nationalizing Tesla and SpaceX, we can actually get there.
And a lot of it paid for by the government at least space x. Tesla not so sure about there are many dumb designs with Tesla. Like allowing people to burn in them because they can't get out.
Now that would be HILARIOUS
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Well, kind of, but the problem here is Trump saying he will cancel the contracts.
SpaceX would be bound by their contracts, so if they are signed and Trump does not rip them up, then Elon cannot just walk away.
That's not remotely how contracts work.
In the normal world, yes. All bets are off when everyone involved ignores laws and manages by vibes.
Breaking contract law does not currently seem to be in the oligarchs' interests at this point.
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Gonna need a megathread for this fallout. They are at each other.
-Calls for Impeachment
-Decommissioning contracts
-Naming in Epstein files
-ICE rounding up musk
That last point would be beautiful
You forgot Musk leaking all the snooped data he's collected from all the White House staff traversing his Starlink dish on the White House roof. Anyone know what the over/under for number of christian conservative senior White House officials found actively using Grindr?
He didn't threaten this one though. The other four were actual posts by the two idiots
Say goodbye to human spaceflight for an entire generation. We made a huge mistake hitching everything onto this fucker's stuff.
I've been waiting for us to leave LEO since I was a kid in the 80s and it now looks like I might be dying without ever having witnessed even a moon landing. I envy my parents.
Unless China or India or Russia pull something off. They're all we have after this.
China is already testing a starship clone.
We've seen it works. It can be reengineered. Not that they'd be allowed to just ignore their contract like that. They'd forcefully remove the company from him before that happened.
Can't the admin simply seize SpaceX, if it is that important to "national security"? If elon complains, deport him and nationalize his stuff on the grounds that he got his citizenship under illegal pretenses (illegal immigrant).
They certainly could. I don’t think it’s a terrible idea either - Elon is not stable enough to handle the decision making for national security tech.
I mean, the current national security advisor doesn't seem stable enough to handle the decision making either. It's unsurprising that E-Mu fit in fine with this administration until recently.
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I think you mean for the west. China has its own rockets and space station and I imagine they aren't stopping just cause SpaceX decided to shoot itself in the foot.
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I just hope they both come out of this knowing that nobody gives a shit about either one of them
Can't retire if you never worked.
The dragon capsule worked though? You may be thinking of starliner, which is Boeing.
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It's bed time in the UK, can someone keep me updated with the shitshow whilst I sleep?
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