I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump
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He is much worse, but he's also far less of a threat, as he doesn't have ANY public mandate, in the form of any kind of following or cultish fandom.
Trump's power is almost ENTIRELY a product of how he tapped into the country's stupid fucking redneck hogs and narcissists and delusional conspiracy nuts. JD has exactly ZERO flat-earthers driving around with his face painted on the side of their van. Having a following of millions of people, even if they are mentally-deficient to a degree that is literally breathtaking, is still power, a great deal of power too because he has them under such tight control.
Vance might be dangerous in short-term policy decisions, but he doesn't have electoral power, he doesn't have chips in the game, he won't make a dent in senate/house bill votes, he won't have influence on local and state elections. He's pre-neutered. The only ones who should be worried about Vance are the white-house sofas.
Vance also has no charisma or personality to speak of. He can’t lead a movement like MAGA.
Yep that's what I'm talking about, having a "movement" behind you is the strongest form of political currency. The right has wanted someone like Trump for a VERY long time because he's wealthy and not with cash. And he's dumb enough to be led around.
Vance is largely a nobody. You can accurately deduce he's a pile of shit, but he's always going to be largely ineffectual on the political stage because his ass is broke.
Vance is absolutely worse. He's the true disciple of Curtis Yarvin, and that's the end of the country as we know it.
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Yes, but he won’t be backed up by maga. There will be more internal fighting.
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Vance is totally owned by Peter Theil, who is a well-known Psychopathic Oligarch.
Yeah, unfortunately, there’s no one in the line of succession I particularly like. At least RFK is #12 and Linda McMahon is #16, both pretty far down.
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Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.
No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.
Yeah - nepo babies are like this. Made the mistake of marrying one, and any perceived slight needed punishment and retaliation.
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I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just enjoying two enemies fight it out.
What I really love about this is that Trump is so narcissistic that he earnestly believed that Elon liked him. That he believed in his vision for the country and that he wouldn't want anything in return, like a load more juicy government contracts, a bill to mandate that petrol cars would be phased out, or all safety regulations about self driving cars to be torn up.
Bless his cold dead heart for being exactly what everybody knows he is. Everybody except those idiots who jump into bed with him, because all those other people he betrayed were losers who just weren't smart enough.
i mean...you could just as easily say the reverse, it honestly seemed like they needed each other just as much both ways
Yeah, but Trump got what he wanted first.
Who could see this coming said that one clueless guy who didn't.
So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?
He spent hundreds of millions to scrape personal data of all US citizens and cripple investigations into his businesses.
This is the real bottom line, right here
He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.
you call this BREAKING? just another day
Can we have both of these? Please please please?
- Trump impeached
- Musk deported
I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.
Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.
If we're dreaming of fantasies that will never happen, I also want nationwide ranked-choice voting, and maybe we can overturn Citizens United Vs Federal Elections and stop allowing corporations to literally run our country.
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This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
It's already happening...
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they'd pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump's cult. They can't win with either alone.
They're already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
their egos are too big to make up
That's where you're wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can't be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they're both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
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Well, I've been saying that for months. Do I get money now?
Anybody have any idea what they're trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you're giving them too much credit. I'm pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
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There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
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What a absolutely wild timeline we are living in
Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn't been a genuine attempt yet. What if it's merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.
I don't see Vance flags on people's trucks. I see Trump flags. I just don't know that Vance gets the backing Trump does. I think the Rs capitulate to Trump so much because of his rabies base, and there's this concern they'll be replaced by someone who Trump endorses.
I do think it's all a game for wealthy people, and we will just pay for it one way or another, regardless.
MAGA is a classic cult of personality. It's all HitlerPig, there is no #2 waiting in the wings, not even his own spawn. When HitlerPig goes, MAGA is dead, and the backstabbing will become open warfare.
If the Dems can get their shit together, and have the spine to act, they'll have the opportunity to sweep up the most corrupt traitors, and remove them from politics forever. They can hit a giant reset button on American politics.
Let's see if they have the nerve for bold action on America's behalf.
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Sadly enough, this won't escalate into anything because Musk didn't exactly have a lot of friends in the GOP even when Trump's head was crammed shoulder-deep in his ass. He was only tolerated because the GOP had no other real choice, and they didn't want to risk him funding a primary challenger. He has lots of money but no actual political clout. Which means I doubt there's going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
He'll probably go the Liz Cheney route of just being ostracized by everybody. But hey, it'll be a hell of a lot of fun watching all this shit in the meantime.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
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Yes, I agree. We should put Trump in a peach and roll him off a cliff.
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