Dunking on Tankies from a leftist, anti-capitalist perspective.
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I hate the 'the West prolongs the war by supplying weapons' take that I've also seen being uttered. Fuck right off, Russia prolongs the war each day they spend in Ukraine.
I somehow never hear anybody say that the allied countries prolonged WW2 by taking up arms against Germany. We even celebrate that fact each year. Mindboggling mental gymnastics on how we could do the same for another country, but now intervention is suddenly a bad thing.
The west has definitely prolonged the war, but only by being pansies about what weapons we supplied Ukraine and how they were allowed to use them
Avoiding global nuclear annihilation is typically a good move.
If Russia was going to drop nukes, they would have already done so the past several hundred times they threatened to do so. It's all saber rattling.
That's pretty easy to say in hindsight.
Hey how about you empty your bank account and give it to me?
If you don't I'll press the nuclear annihilation button.
How did you know I wouldn't destroy the entire world, including myself, for your minuscule possessions?
If only this lesson could be applied somehow to global political theory...
Neither does russia.
The current tankie take to justify the war to avoid just accepting that Russia is conducting imperialism is that Ukraine is a Nazi country. That's it, no nuance, nothing. It's a Nazi country that needs to be liberated. No, you're not allowed to ask any follow up questions. You can get that straight from Cowbee along with 19 pages of bullshit . It's their current meta.
Ive seen multible arguments on how commies never commited a single crime against humanity since everyone who is not a commie is a nazi.
"Doctors prolong the illness by providing medicine for an otherwise deadly disease."
Doesn't it seem strange to you guys that you hear these exact same talking points from the Donald Trump people?
It's almost like all these nationalistic authoritarians have more in common with each other than with the rest of us...
With how far Trump is up up Putin's ass, not strange at all.
I think Putin's and Trump's agendas differ a bit. Putin is an irredentist megalomaniac that loves his past as a tool of KGB oppression and wishes it back, Trump is just an old, demented, tired-of-life racist.
I distinctly remember the days just before the Russian invasion in a subreddit that is full of Russian bots. They were dismissing the potential Russian invasion as Western hysteria. And for once, I was inclined to agree because after the lies to invade Iraq, I was skeptical of CIA assessment. Moreover, it is utterly stupid to invade a group of people who historically hate their previous imperial masters. That's like Britain invading India and Ireland again and expecting the British to be welcomed in open arms.
But then the unthinkable actually happened-- Russia did invade. However, Ukrainians valiantly held themselves and embarrassed the Russians, and doing so to this day.
The Russian bots in the subreddit I mentioned have immediately gone quiet after the invasion and haven't posted for a couple of days. The anti-Kremlin posts during that time were not getting any push back. Like the actual Russian soldiers who were not informed that the invasion will actually happen, the bots and their handlers themselves were also surprised, and they were waiting for marching orders on what talking points to propagandise. The bots returned with precisely the talking points you just summarised. But at the same time with predictable pattern since then, Russian bots go quiet whenever Russia suffer embarrassing setbacks such as the Russian withdrawal from Kyiv, the 2022 Kharkov and Kherson liberation, Ukraine's invasion into Kursk, and now the destruction of Russia's fleet of bomber planes.
They are so pro-Russian it's crazy. I dont get it, so they are basically like a US MAGA movement ... except they like Communist China and the Communist Russian party.
My favorite was when they were saying Ukraine was full of Nazis, so it's ok if they get invaded.
Some tankie argued me that the Crimean bridge bombings were unethical and illegal because is somehow "civilian infrarestructure" like WTF dude.
You forgot “it’s not a war, it’s a special military operation!”
No no!! A 3 day special military operation.
You have misunderstood, it's 3 years (https://sh.itjust.works/post/39338196), and soon 1 million russians hurt or dead, I wonder when the population will wake up.
I get what you're saying but i'm referencing the things Putin said at the start of the war
There's tankies in my country who literally believe "South China Sea" belongs to Mainland China.
Gulf of America
Tankies are morons.
"but Putin says the people living in those border regions are majority 'ethnic Russian' so invading is okay"
Stalin used a similar justification for invading Poland
I heard the same type of bullshit on social media up to the January 6th insurrection.
How'd my in-laws get on the internet?