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ROUND 9: ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ Spain


FORMULA 1 ARAMCO GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAร‘A 2025


Circuit stats


  • First Grand Prix: 1991
  • Number of laps: 66
  • Circuit Length: 4.657 km
  • Race Distance: 307.236 km
  • Lap record: 1:16.330 Max Verstappen (2023)
  • 2024 winner: Max Verstappen

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[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

It's a shame for Max that they stuck him on hards after he'd raced so well, but jesus christ does he get away with some nonsense. Ten seconds for intentionally crashing into a competitor? Ridiculously light.

He obviously went for the "ahead at the apex" rulebending* that he's used so effectively by rolling off the brakes and trying to claim the position off track on T1, and then when it doesn't go his way he's lost his head.

He's the best driver on the grid, not just in terms of speed but also consistency, track awareness and shrewd rule awareness too - but when he behaves like this it reflects poorly, the way it did when Schumacher was doing this sort of thing too. I guess that kind of anger is part of what makes a best-of-the-best racing driver though.

*It's not really rulebending, more following the letter of the law than the spirit, which is what makes a fantastic competitor -- very clever, very much maximising every inch of the track and of the rulebook.

[โ€“] Etnaphele@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Absolutely, but his signature move works only if he somewhat hits the apex, in this case he couldnโ€™t because of Russell alongside him. He should have accepted the screw up of gambling on multiple softs and having none at the end. They are professionals, such revengeful behavior because heโ€™s pissed has no place on any race track. Iโ€™m pretty sure being short tempered isnโ€™t required to become a champion. Unfortunately, as you said, we have multiple examples of it.

[โ€“] krimson@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Yep he went full Jos mode again which is a big big shame. I saw the replays of leclerc and russell and I can see where his frustration is coming from but in moments like this and after all these years he is still not able to keep himself in check. Let him pass, avoid a penalty and retry to overtake.

This might have been the moment the small chance at a WDC was thrown away (also by the team by putting him on hards).

[โ€“] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I meant they discuss on tires strategy so given yesterday strategy with tires in qualify the hard must have been an option discussed.

Meme: You guys discussed about it, right? Right?

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I imagine though that they weren't planning that additional stop under safety car. I suppose the data must have showed that fresh hards had a better chance than old softs on a restart like that, and maybe that was correct and we wouldn't be having this discussion at all, had Max not had that slide coming onto the start/finish straight as the race got underway again. Just a bit of bad luck for the team really, I think -- although you're right, they probably would have discussed hards at some point this weekend.

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Norris in the cooldown room watching Max crash into George literally said: "I've done that before... In mario kart" lol

[โ€“] 4am@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

I like how they were all like โ€œhe got a penalty? For that?โ€ when the earlier contact was shown, and then when the incident happened they were all like ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

[โ€“] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lando just now when asked about that comment: oh, you heard that?"

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

P5 for the Hulk! Points for Alonso!

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Hulk had a bit of a sleeper hit there! Where did he come from on that restart??? ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did Hulkenberg in a Sauber just overtake Hamilton in a Ferrari?

[โ€“] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Absolute legend lol

[โ€“] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

What the fuck happened at the end. Max's move made no fucking sense. Total red mist moment there.

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He wanted to ram Russell in revenge, pretty simple

[โ€“] Ragglemcsnics@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah Max was having a bit of a tantrum.

[โ€“] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Sometimes Max makes it so difficult to support him.

[โ€“] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

He was aggrieved that he thought Charles and George both hit him while passing (for reason thinking any contact is illegal) and so after being told to give the pace back incorrectly, he Red misted to prove a point and ram George off the road while overtaking, as he felt was similarly done to him. He was totally wrong and intentionally used his car as a weapon. Disgraceful.

[โ€“] DV8@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

A Sauber overtaking a Ferrari was not on my bingo card for this weekend

[โ€“] ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Max should be a race ban for that, but it'll never happen.

[โ€“] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago

At the very least, it should have been a disqualification from this race

[โ€“] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago
[โ€“] ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fun seeing Max get Driver of the day, though. He would have deserved it until the last few laps.

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I get why they close the vote at some point, but if it was open till the end Hulk might have gotten it..

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Max when he feels unfairly treated by the marshalls is something else.. this feels like the race where he and Norris were pushing each other off track

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

"Why are we on hard?!"

Same question here, Max. Official tire info says you should still have a used soft tire left that could be used.

[โ€“] DV8@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Piastri driving very mature after putting in the work to make it possible yesterday.

[โ€“] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Max really showed how โ€œmatureโ€ he is today.

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Verstappen is now under investigation for causing a collision, it seems. So what was the 10 seconds penalty for?

Was there two collisions? I know he was saying George hit him on the radio before he had to give up the place

[โ€“] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Leclerc podium looks very likely, Ferrari has been a rocketship on low fuel.

[โ€“] ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot going to rely on when Max pits. Feeling a possible Leclerc too.

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Aaand he's pitted under safety car. No way Leclerc gets that podium now.

[โ€“] ChocoboEnthusiast@leminal.space 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Max getting stuck on hard though... Maybe a flicker of hope there.

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

You're a clairvoyant

[โ€“] 4am@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Aged like milk

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Looks like the Sauber upgrades are working really well.. while Williams is not convincing here

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Well, given how many cars took to the runoff there, I can understand why Nico did not know behind which car he should have correctly come back onto the track. He had no real advantage there.

Spain 2025, the front wing battle race

Fernando taking the full tour of the track.

[โ€“] DV8@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

How Max kept that car on the road is insane. And as I'm writing this. Seems like people bumping into Max at the moments his car isn't slipping...

I'd like to see Max and Piastri battle a bit today.

[โ€“] doc3vil@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Max winning driver of the day is wild lol - maybe people just really dislike George and found his ramming funny?

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

The DOTD vote closes some time before the race ends.

[โ€“] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Jude Bellingham did NOT read the room well lol.. laughing immediately after the Antonelli dnf while sitting at Merc