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[–] irelephant@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

[s] What are you talking about? Israel is probably one of the countries that gives it's citizens the most. The results really are admirable. Everyone should really look into how they did it (After miming looking at my phone for a single second) Oh... Oh no... Fuck. [/s].

Seriously though, the word "citizens" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[–] Therobohour@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

It's a doubled sided genocide. America send money over to Israel so they can kill they're own citizen and the US doesn't have the money to save its citizens lives.

It'd be so much easier if they both stopped trying to kill people

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 days ago

Godammit!

Well, tyranny forces us to excel, or something.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 102 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean decent, hardworking capitalist Americans are subsidising a socialist hellscape??? 😯

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its more fascist America funds national socialist Israel.

[–] TheCriticalMember@aussie.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pffft, details shmetails. If it's got socialism in the name it's the devil. I don't wanna risk any of my tax dollars going to help me or - heaven forbid, my neighbor - when it could be used to push a hard working billionaire's pile that much closer to trickling down! I can almost feel that golden shower already!

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Yeah right ... their own tax base is enough to cover the cost of public services like that ...

... but a genocide? ... Palestine ain't gonna genocide itself ... that shit costs money

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

A lot of the money goes towards to illegal colonial settlements. These cost far more in security and infrastructure and the social services there are much more expensive to get more people to go there for "good roads and schools".

Even before the genocide Israel has been heavily subsidized by the US and other allies.

As UNRWA has been covering much of the humanitarian obligations Israel has as an occupying force over the past half century the global community has been subsidizing Israel with dozens of billions too.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 37 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Countries with nukes should never receive any aid for anything, ever.

That should be the price of having nukes.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Whatever happened to the right wing talking point of “Take care of our country first”?

[–] Neurada@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How is this a right wing talking point? It's blatant corruption, there is no ideology in prioritizing you're own citizens. Wtf?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Right now they’re all loving supporting destroying Gaza and occupying it. They also screamed about how being involved in Ukraine was bad. Right-wingers are just awful, broken people with no consistency beyond always doing exactly what their local conservative party tells them.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Remember when the right thought The Jewish bankers controlled the world. They made whole documentaries on it and everything. Crazy how fast the beliefs of all groups shift from year to year.

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[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I wish Trump would chicken out on this.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This is both true, and not entirely accurate.

Israel spends something like $24 on their defense. The $3B that the the US gives them (and it's $3B, not $4B, based on what I can find) is largely in the form of military materials: ammunition, bombs, air defense systems, etc. So what we give them is about 20% of their total defense spend, and yeah, that's a lot.

But the flip side of that is that American workers in American factories are the ones building the bombs, missiles defense systems, making the bullets, etc.; the money that the gov't gives Israel ends up creating a benefit for workers in the form of work that wouldn't otherwise exist. I'd have to see a real economic analysis, but this might be a case of each dollar that the gov't spends creating more than a dollar of effect. (And yeah, I know that a lot of that effect is going to e.g. Raytheon shareholders rather than line workers. But still.)

BUT

The fact that we see an economic benefit in terms of jobs and growth by giving Israel aid doesn't mean we should. Because we're directly funding the genocide of the Palestinians.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Israel spends something like $24 on their defense.

I assume there's supposed to be a B on the end of that figure. But it's funny picturing them spending just twenty-four bucks.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 points 6 days ago

Yes, $24B, sorry.

If they spent $24.00 on their own defense, and the US gave them $3B, then, uh, they'd be 100% dependent on the US.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)
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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Democrat/Republican is all a smoke show. They both agree that Israel deserves our money. You're not allowed to question it. You're not allowed to boycott them. Even bringing it up is anti-Semitic activity.

If you want to know who the real bosses are, look at who it's illegal to criticize.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Isn't that all military equipment?

Which is worse. Like it's not that the US is subsidizing something good like higher education, but rather bombs and guns for faster genocide?

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

The dumbass people in this country didn't get jealous of the universal health care they paid to institute in Iraq. There's no hope.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Foreign aid isn't given in the form of direct cash payments. Trump also seems to think foreign aid works that way.

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