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Woman in Maine Thanks Bernie Sanders for $20 Inhaler That Used to Cost Her $300. (www.commondreams.org)

submitted 2 years ago by ModerateImprovement@sh.itjust.works to c/news@lemmy.world

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 107 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We coulda had a bad bitch.

[–] Zozano@lemy.lol 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Democratic Party would never give him the chance after the narrative about age competency; he's a year older than Biden.

On top of that he's a "radical socialist anarchist protesting rebel".

Unfortunately the Dems are convinced they need a candidate close to centre to pull people from the right - I'm hoping the success of Harris proves this strategy is shit.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

I’m talking 2016, and again in 2020.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 17 points 2 years ago

If Harris fails, they’ll find someone older, whiter, maler, and even closer to a conservative.

They could lose every election ever and still refuse to glance to the left.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Never let Bernie's legacy die... https://youtu.be/ZlZaVtCT5HI

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 69 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't always align with him policy wise, but man do I like him as a human being. Always focusing on solutions to issues, not attacking others.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

have you seen his old public tv show where he interviewed random people? he speaks to a very young goth looking couple. he's incredibly interested in their opinions and very understanding to their attitude. he's the kind of "old" you want. not bitter and defensive, but engaged, perceptive and understanding.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have not, but you're exactly right!

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

i misremembered; they were punks. https://youtu.be/OxpsS2nTntQ

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would be hilarious for him to interview them both now, with more-or-less the same set of questions :)

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's the same two "mall punks" interviewed in 2020 https://youtu.be/fq97NjNww4w

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is incredible... This is the type of stuff the internet is made for! They are absolutely different than I would have guessed, which is a good thing! I think it's amazing "Mike" was volunteering for Bernie

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which policies don't you align with?

[+] dmtalon@infosec.pub -39 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think there are things he wants that he knows won't ever happen but he pushes for them anyway. Focusing on 'taxing the rich' is never going to happen (IMHO). I think, removing loop holes, and making sure everyone pays there share is a much better fight, and achieves the same results. I'm sure there are other things we're not lined up on but that one jumps out.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think, removing loop holes, and making sure everyone pays there share is a much better fight

That is the whole goal of focusing on 'taxing the rich', though. These two are the same thing stated in different ways. The only people who abuse these loopholes are the rich. The working class already pays their share.

Maybe you just have a problem with the wording, I guess? Because you don't seem to disagree, at all, from the quote above.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

He knows that. It's psychology. You ask for everything you want and more, then you haggle to just what you want.

Yes, it's stupid, but people are stupid.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So, you don't want to tax the rich? You seem to be misunderstanding something fundamental.

Making the rich pay their fair share would literally mean taxing them. Currently, they are able to get out of it with the loopholes. Removing the loopholes forces the rich to pay taxes.

The fact that you can't name things means, to me, that you haven't spent much time really thinking about it. So does the one item you cited.

I'm happy to continue this conversation when you have a solid position to speak from.

[+] dmtalon@infosec.pub -8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Where did I say that? Did you read my whole comment? Are you actively looking to argue?

I actually almost didn't reply knowing whatever I said would lead to exactly this.

Your right I'm not actively thinking about all of Bernies policies in 2024. 'tax the rich" will garner the support of the "not rich", you know the ones that don't pull the strings or have the power.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I read your entire comment. It was lacking in substance or depth. That's why I made clarifying points.

If you're not thinking about Bernie politics in 2024, but commenting on a Bernie political post, maybe leave the political part out. Particularly if you aren't going to speak more about it... this is a forum for discussion after all.

[–] na_th_an@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Your reply didn't cite a policy position he has after being asked which policy you disagree with.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

'tax the rich" will garner the support of the “not rich”, you know the ones that don’t pull the strings or have the power.

99.9999% of people are not “rich”. If you have to rely on income from a job to keep from becoming homeless or destitute, then you’re not rich. If you have to work a job to make money, you’re not rich. You can rent a lifestyle, sure. But how long can you sustain it without working?

Remember, expensive lives cost money. Where’s that coming from, exactly? A huge majority of people are working class.

Most people would benefit from a society which taxes corporations and the uber wealthy (non working class) their due share. Higher taxes means more social programs, and social programs are not just welfare. Social programs come in all sorts of varieties, including funding art and museums.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

It's a good and proven tactic. Ask 400% of what may never happen, but at least we get 50%. What catloaf@lemm.ee said.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love Bernie, and would have given a kidney for him to have gotten the nomination way back when, but it feels like you just got jumped. Sorry bud.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its the nature of the echo chamber that is Lemmy. I'm over 50 and have voted in every election I could, and Bernie is the only one I ever gave any if my money to.

He could still work on how he markets his policies. No doubt probably could have stated my example better or picked something else. Better yet just not reply.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] hoodles@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I appreciate you taking the time to respond and express your views, especially knowing what the response would probably be. Diversity of opinion is always important.

[–] dmtalon@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago

I'm here to make this place better than reddit and with the lower volume of people, those here need to participate.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 12 points 2 years ago

and if he does attack others they are usually being way obstructionist and spreading bs about the issue or the solutions.

[–] bquintb@midwest.social 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The US does not deserve Sanders even though we need him.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As a European I've been looking at America in disbelief, not understanding why Sanders wasn't the most obvious choice all along.

[–] another@discuss.online 9 points 2 years ago

He was, but our voting system is flawed, and corporations influence most things. Bernie is bad for “business”

[–] uis@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's still 20$ more than it should

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

Small steps my friend. Just take a look at how the republicans do it. First they overturn roe v wade, have the abortion decision decided by the states, and planning in 2025 that no abortion is legal in the country.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Calm down, some billionaire can't afford his third yacht because of this shit.

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